The inheiritance. 1976 P6b

Kumho's - they're not a perfect match for the original size as they have a 70 sidewall, (they're a 195/70/r14 iirc) but they're quiet, have lots of grip and are miles ahead of the rock hard old Dunlop GTRs that were on there before. The tyre guys actually recommended them over the more expensive bridgestones and toyos.

AND everyone can breathe now, I've got the car booked in for a wheel alignment with someone that knows Rovers.
 
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So all the doubters can alay their concerns, turns out the guys that I went to for the tyres were right, the whole front end is completely worn out.

The guy that knows how to set up a p6 looked at mine today, it's totally shot with miles of play in the steering setup. You can actually hold one of the front wheels in your hands and shake it and it wobbles. That's how bad it is.

Yeah... not so good news.
 
Hi Geoff,

Steering idlers are well known for giving up the ghost, loads of lateral play gives the n/s wheel that well known "shopping trolley syndrome". Pretty sure that Scott has those on exchange. The steering side rods and track rod I would expect to be fine as their ball joints are not subjected to compressive shock loading.

Ron.
 
Bugger, that's not good re the front end. :(

Give me a shout if you want some assistance and we can get it up on stands and go through it to see where the play is coming from.

Cheers,

Al
 
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Hey, at least you know what the problem is now, and it's only parts.....
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that's true. I'm hoping that it nothing has worn out (as in metal components) from there being no bush/lubrication/etc between joints. fingers crossed.

SydneyRoverP6B said:
Hi Geoff,

Steering idlers are well known for giving up the ghost, loads of lateral play gives the n/s wheel that well known "shopping trolley syndrome". Pretty sure that Scott has those on exchange. The steering side rods and track rod I would expect to be fine as their ball joints are not subjected to compressive shock loading.

Ron.
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Met the chap @ Scott's the other day when I got some windscreen stuff. Had a chat to him about suspension stuff.

Al - as soon as I get my other car at the stage where it can go back outside, I'll take you up on your offer.
 
alternator

So tvr_v8 gave me a heads up on a p6b in a wrecking yard near us, was it the one for sale on the side of the road that we'd seen a bit Al?

Anyway, I need the rubber bit that goes between the inside mirror and the roof - my sunvisor keeps popping out, a proper Rover door mirror, I also needed some bolts and nuts and some other doo-dads.

Got there today and it was raining, the window winder on the drivers door was jammed tight, so I gave that up as a bad joke, BUT while poking my head around in the engine bay, I noticed that the Lucas alternator had been ditched and someone has replaced it with a Bosch unit, which literally bolts straight in. I didn't get the adjustment bracket off as the mounting bolt was seized on (and I was getting really wet by this stage, but it looks like it is a Ford EA Falcon one, rated at 55 amps. I have a relative who's an auto sparky, when he's back from leave I can go through his parts books and find out for sure, but these are also pretty easy to find in higher outputs. (if you google "bosch alternator motorcraft 55 amp) the same conversion comes up amongst V8 mgb owners). For you Euro guys, it looks like a Ford Fiesta alternator is the one to use. (part of the markings on the case are 82EA 10300 and s12g 060 880)
 
alternators - part two

Have been out in the garage doing some measuring, it looks like a variety of alternators will fit as long as you use a matching fan and pulley, I've just measured up a Datsun alternator and the spacing is the same as the Ford one (but with one less mounting leg).

Will post up more later on.
 
Bosch Alternator

Have found a bit of time at work so here's the Alternator that I found and some comparison notes:

Firstly, the car that I found in a wreckers:
 

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The Bosch Alternator as fitted to the p6b:
 

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The best part about this alternator is that it used the standard Belt and unlike the spare Datsun one I was given, no need to change the fan or pulley. As a bonus, it also had the spacer fitted. (Shown further down).

Question. Wiring. Brown wire with a white stripe = ? (there are two) Brown wire with a black stripe = ?
 

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I mentioned before the spacer on one of the mounting legs, this is it here - it's the black thing between the alternator leg and the engine mounting bracket:
 

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The middle Bosch is the one off the Rover I found, the one on the right is off some sort of Datsun. It's the same as the Bosch in the middle (ie brushes are the same etc) it just has one mounting leg missing - which is not needed anyway. I think that it is a lower amp rating than the one in the middle. From my rough googling, I think it's around 50 amps, the one I found is 55 amps (I think!) and is probably off a 1980's Ford Falcon (EA Falcon probably. Common as dirt here in Australia and literally a rubbish car so parts are cheap).

Actually, looking at that picture, it does appear that the Datsun one does have the black spacer on the rear leg. If anyone is going to do this swap, those spacers are easily available at any old Auto Electrician anyway. My uncle's got hundreds of the things floating around in tins and buckets at his workshop.
 

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The only thing I didn't get was the adjustment bracket as the bolt holding it in to the aluminum mount was stuck hard and no amount of force would get it off without a breaker bar. Plus it was raining and I had most of the parts I need. (I'm planning to go back soon to try and get all four wheel hubs and the bonnet).

Does anyone know what the wire colours mean?
 
The brown and yellow wires are the charging circuit, and as far as I know the thicker one carries charge through the ammeter and starter to the battery, the thinner one is for the ignition warning light circuit.
 
Woot.

Box arrived from Canada during the week:

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Excellent. Taps fingers. Next up I'll start collecting parts for a front end/steering/suspension rebuild. I'm also on the hunt for a pair of rear shock absorbers, but I have an idea about where to get a pair of Koni's from.
 
So after the bitch from Canada stooged me and some other issues that need to be sorted out, I have these:


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A completely rebuilt set courtesy of Brenten and Top Performance here in Melbourne that rebuilt them. I have the front rubbers, I just need to get some split pins and I'll have a go at fitting the fronts.


Ron, I suspect I need to give you a ring about what rubber doodads to use with the rear ones....
 
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