Re: P6 project: BW35 to LT77 manual box swap: the verdict

Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

DamianZ28 said:
Hi Guys,

Yep the trusty grinder with 1mm cutting disc will be put into action for the inner rear D-posts, I saw your modification Simon, was it a 'PIA' or fairly straight forward, I wont be lowering the rear suspension , I will lower the front a little, will try your trick of usuing rear springs as 1" is enough to acheive the look I'm after..

Right just need a couple months of work & lock myself in my garage :D if only LOL..busy job, too many house DIY stuff thing & young children!! even the cat harrasses me :cry:

If you're not already aware there are legal implications in the UK with modifying the monocoque of a car (I found out long after I started so I've carried on and will deal with it all later :( ) but I'm sure 'massaging' the d-post area will be acceptable in the eyes of VOSA because it should be classed as a non-stuctural part of the bodyshell. There is a lot of information clarifying what's OK and what's not over on The ACE (Association of Car Enthusiasts) website if you trawl through it. They often deal with cars that have fallen foul of the rules on modifying and given assistance on re-registering the cars so that they are legal once again.

Anyway, boring disclaimer bit over :wink: , I found the whole d-post area a nightmare. Being a large curved, double skinned area, it was constantly springing back, and when I eventually welded it in place, I got loads of distortion and it tried to pull itself back in. At some point in the future I plan to drill out the spot welds, and make a complete new d-post for each side of similar dimensions to what I already have, but a much improved more 'professional' looking modification to the bodyshell.

I like the plan of inducing some 'rake', it should go well with the lines of the car. One of the failings of the standard design I think is the excessive front wheel to arch gap. My rover has a nice rake to it, and the front and rear bumpers now sit at the same height. I think from memory the rear springs in the front put the front suspension very close to the bumpstops. Definately something to try for yourself, if anything to test the look for yourself of the change in ride height without having to spend money.
 
Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

upadate on rebuild, timing chain cover, water pump & alternater now fitted aswell, should have her running by thursday eve, fingers crossed...

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Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

Good luck with the fire up, hold your breath, turn the key, and get your foot on the throttle!

Watch the gaskets when you put the timing cover on too as the sump one can crease when you tighten the timing cover to the block.
 
Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

Don't forget the start up procedure with a Rover V8! In particular after a cam change.

1 Prime oil pump. Make sure the oil filter is full before you fit it. Either run the engine without firing until you get oil pressure (not recommended here - see 4), spin the oil pump with an adaptor and electric drill with the distributor out, or load the oil pump with vaseline.

2 Use only a good quality 20/50 Classic oil - Penrite, Valvoline, Millers are favourite. This is to get lots of ZDDP to look after the cam - modern oils don't have it.

3 Use a running in paste on the cam

4 On start up, run at 2,000 rpm for 20 mins. Don't let it idle!

Chris
 
Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the tips Chris, have pretty much got as you have advised, cam lobes & bottom of the lifters covered in the sticky red lube, uprated oil pump packed with vaseline, have comma 20-50 classic oil also mixed with some additive from Reel Steel for extra protection, oil filter filled & fitted, also have the 'oil priming tool' so may also do that last off all before refitting the disty & starting.....will let yall know how it goes, hopfully with out a big bang :D
 
Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

Sorry Damien - but we've now established Comma classic definitely isn't up to the mark! Just use it for the first 500mls before you put something with the right amount of ZDDP in it. (see other recent threads!) Best of luck with the heart stopping moment! First fire of a rebuilt engine is always a brown trousers moment!

Chris
 
Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

Hi Guys,

All finished, K&N's fitted with the new Mallory electronic disty, performance coil, runs really smooth & sounds great on accelleration 8) Hopefully my alloys will arrive soon but next task is to investigate the very loose & fish tail moving rear suspension...I'm thinking new poly bushes all round after 39 yrs of life will improve its road holding manners!

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Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

Looking good Damian! :)

Just a point re the K&N's if I might....they would perhaps be better mounted onto the original elbows, rather than straight onto the carb adaptors. That way the feed air is at a lower temperature.

Have a look at >this thread<

Cheers,
 
Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

Hi Stan,


Good point, will give it that a try, also means I can clip the Gearbox dipstick/filler back on the RH elbow!

On a different subject, what colour red did you repaint your V8? is it Monza or Brigade ?

I'll respraying mine in Red but dont want somthing thats too 'bright' red but still a decent shade
 
Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

Blimey Stan....that is one long thread! stunning result though & good choice of shade

cheers Damian
 
Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

Looks like you've got a good car for the money, and nice work on the engine 8)

Good luck on your choice of paint colour - I'm sure it'll be good whichever you pick :)
 
Re: P6 V8, £550 runner, Winter work/rust repair etc

Hi Guys, with the top end rebuild complete on the engine, I have now started to strip the rear end down, (the rear wings had been welded to the D-Post's :xcouldne beleive it, thought it strange after undoing all the bolts!) the whole rear unit will be removed for cleaning painting & re-bushing with poly versions & new disc's n pads.
As you can see the N/S & O/S D-posts need rust repair, hopefully my Cragar alloys will arrive soon so with possible 205/60/15 tyres fitted to the rear I can see what mods will be required to the D-post!
Grinder, welder, swear box & plasters are at the ready :D
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Re: P6 V8, £550 runner!!

DaveHerns said:
One of Sowen's front spoilers would really finish the aussie car off a treat.

Scotts Old Rubber Parts in Oz make a stylish ( and practical ) front spoiler for the P6.... Sorry, I can't find pictures of it now

The Orange car looks like the rear fenders have been stretched sideways to accommodate some seriously wide wheels; probably why he's lost the side-trim too. Looks very clean de-badged + lowered, a nice "look" to go for! While its a VIC reg. + laws vary between States, the NSW minimum ground clearance is: "100mm ( minimum from the ground ) to any point of the vehicle."

GW
 
Re: P6 V8 project: Winter work/rust repair etc

I had the same problem with PAE in that the previous owner had welded the front wings on rather than using the handy rivets... Havent taken the rear wings off yet. Expect it's not that dissimilar to yours though. Most bits on PAE seem to have been bodged to help add a little mystery to proceedings... Was impressed with the inner sill in particular :D ... The repair lasted 21 years though so quite an effective bodge really...

Rich
 
Re: P6 V8 project: Winter work/rust repair etc

Those piccies bring back memories from a year ago. :?

Not too difficult to do though, as long as you have some time and patience.

How are you going to tackle it?

Richard
 
Re: P6 V8 project: Winter work/rust repair etc

Hi Richard,

Yeah looks worse that it really is! first job is too drop the whole rear suspension down , then I'll tacke the welding repairs, clean the whole rear underneath, stone chip & smootherite in satin black. Hopefully the alloys will arrive in early Jan 11 so with a couple of new tires fitted to the rear & can see what if any D-post alterations will be required. One this is done I'll strip the rear suspension, cleaning, painting, fitting all new bushes, disc's n pads & brake lines, refit but then I may see if I can add an extra tail pipe to the O/S exit, seen these from 'V8 tuner', would look & sound awesome ! :D

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Cheers damian
 
Re: P6 V8 project: Winter work/rust repair etc

You can build your D posts around your chosen tyres so think of it as a bonus !
 
Re: P6 V8 project: Winter work/rust repair etc

Quick hello from Melbourne, Australia.

The Copper coloured P6B belongs to my cousin, and he got a bit of a surprise when when stumbled across the pictures of it in your forums.
It has the leyland p76 V8 , and is a lovely car. Interior has been fully retrimed, engine reheated with extra chilli powder, and is currently on the road.

I had a chat to him about the pics, as we didnt realise there were any in circulation. The car has gone to two shows, where apparently the local Rover Clubs opinion was that deviated uncomfortably too far away from stock to be interesting to most club members on the day (he knew he should have left those cross-ply tyres on), whilst the "hot rod" community show was confused with the lack of an american reference (ie most heard comment "what the hell is that?).

From memory, the colour is a GMH colour "tiger mica" from the VT ss series commodores.

Mah and pah, and the Cuz'es have 3 or so P6Bs in the garage, amongst a horde of land drovers (7?).

Good luck with your restoration,
Best regards
Wally
 
Re: P6 V8 project: Winter work/rust repair etc

Hi Wally,

Great to hear from you! :D
I think that most of us here on the forum think your cousins P6 is bloody awesome! 8) I certainly love its looks & colour!, I thinks its great to be different with these kind of cars, break the mold from the factory look & sometimes stuffyness from following sheep at classic car shows, I certainly know it would be very welcomed & lots of appreciation from the Hot Rod scene here in the UK!! Be great if your cousin could maybe sign up here on as I think most of us are itching to know how he got the car to sit so low & stuff the awesome alloys in the arches

thanks & regards Damian
 
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