BW65 oil level
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stina
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Hay Harvey . As your on line , was under the old girl this week looking things over for the mot , and while i was down there put a spanner on the sump bolts , got an easy 3/4 ~ one whole turn on each bolt . Will let you know how it goes .
Ps when it's right the auto is so lovely , never imagined i'd enjoy a slush box so much
Ps when it's right the auto is so lovely , never imagined i'd enjoy a slush box so much
ghce
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This is the first auto I have ever owned, always get manuals but the p6b is a joy to drive, easy changes no harshness that I have encounted with many other auto's I have driven...... really other than the lack of overdrive I am loathe to swap it out for the ZF4hp22.
Graeme
Graeme
stina
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Thoughts Harvey ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WYNNS-AUTOMAT ... 45f77c1260
Was browsing and spotted this , only getting the odd spot in the drip tray overnight now . What do you think , gimmick , don't touch it , worth a go ???
Stina
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WYNNS-AUTOMAT ... 45f77c1260
Was browsing and spotted this , only getting the odd spot in the drip tray overnight now . What do you think , gimmick , don't touch it , worth a go ???
Stina
stina
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Hi Harvey . The old girl is still running well and the box is still sweet . Still have the leak though . Funny how mechanical things can't heal themselves like we can :? Any hoo . Been thinking over the last month or so weather to let a auto specialist have a look and service it , stop the leak etc . I have bought a seal and gasket kit from jr,w as i was ordering other parts , so that's been sitting in the garage for a month or so .
My idea was to go to said specialist and sound them out , they advertise as having 30 years experience of autos and are happy to work on classics . ( when i turned up he said , haven't seen one of those in years :shock: )
Any hoo , my plan , devised over a few weeks was to play a bit dumb and ask what fluid he would use in this service . and base my decision on that . He said he would sort the leak , adjust the bands , all the things i wanted to hear , then he said he would use dextron fluid ! When i said i had been strongly advised against that and to use ford bla bla bla spec fluid he said they've used it in hundreds of bw 35/65 services . I pushed him a little more and said it should have the ford spec fluid . He then said whoever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about , so their you go Harvey , you know nothing
My problem is their is no other specialist down here ( unless anyone knows different :?: )
So . Questions .
* What can i do my self while i have the sump off the thing ?
* How much fluid will i get out of it so i know how much to have on hand ?
* What type of filter will it have , their is more than one , will i be better to order them all and send back what i don't
need , as i don't want it off the road waiting for parts if their only a few quid each ?
* While i'm in there are these bands something i can check/adjust my self ?
* Finally what does this wicked modern dextron fluid do in a bw 65 ?
I know you'll tell me to leave it alone until it breaks , but i believe in prevention better than cure , and a bit of maintenance never did no harm
My idea was to go to said specialist and sound them out , they advertise as having 30 years experience of autos and are happy to work on classics . ( when i turned up he said , haven't seen one of those in years :shock: )
Any hoo , my plan , devised over a few weeks was to play a bit dumb and ask what fluid he would use in this service . and base my decision on that . He said he would sort the leak , adjust the bands , all the things i wanted to hear , then he said he would use dextron fluid ! When i said i had been strongly advised against that and to use ford bla bla bla spec fluid he said they've used it in hundreds of bw 35/65 services . I pushed him a little more and said it should have the ford spec fluid . He then said whoever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about , so their you go Harvey , you know nothing
My problem is their is no other specialist down here ( unless anyone knows different :?: )
So . Questions .
* What can i do my self while i have the sump off the thing ?
* How much fluid will i get out of it so i know how much to have on hand ?
* What type of filter will it have , their is more than one , will i be better to order them all and send back what i don't
need , as i don't want it off the road waiting for parts if their only a few quid each ?
* While i'm in there are these bands something i can check/adjust my self ?
* Finally what does this wicked modern dextron fluid do in a bw 65 ?
I know you'll tell me to leave it alone until it breaks , but i believe in prevention better than cure , and a bit of maintenance never did no harm
stina said:
The only thing to actually change is change the filter. The only other thing you could check is the kickdown cable adjustment. You could also clean the magnet, but don't forget to put it back.
stina said:
Buy a gallon and although you're unlikely to get that much out on a single drain, you won't be left short, and you will have some left over for future top-ups.
stina said:
There is only one type of filter fitted to 65 boxes.
stina said:
The band adjusters are external, not inside the sump. You'll need a torque wrench that reads down to 5lbf ft.
stina said:
It is designed to slip, so that's what it does, and that slip introduces heat, which means the box runs permanently overheated.
And there's no "t" in "Dexron".
As for the other bloke, 30 years experience means nothing if you didn't know anything when you started, and haven't learnt anything since..... (And if you see him again, you can tell him I said so.)
stina
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Thanks Harvey , The whole post was in support of your good self . You may of noticed when he disagreed with what you had said i politely walked away and came back here for the definitive answer
So for the price of his service i could buy myself a torque wrench that reads down to 5 lb/ft ( although i think we invested in one when we did the old mans calibra cyl head , for the cam carriers ) and you'll talk me through the thing for allot less than his 110 quid , and i'll learn allot more about my motor . Win Win
Yes i couldn't be bothered to look up dexron on the spell checker so i did 50/50 and never phoned a friend ( don't have many )
So for the price of his service i could buy myself a torque wrench that reads down to 5 lb/ft ( although i think we invested in one when we did the old mans calibra cyl head , for the cam carriers ) and you'll talk me through the thing for allot less than his 110 quid , and i'll learn allot more about my motor . Win Win
Yes i couldn't be bothered to look up dexron on the spell checker so i did 50/50 and never phoned a friend ( don't have many
)I can't see that there's anything that you propose to do, that could trip you up badly. Save the £110 for something else.
Drain fluid, replace filter, check kickdown cable adjustment, clean magnet, clean sump, replace gasket, replenish fluid, adjust both bands. TBH I'd like £110 for just doing that little lot, even if I was doing it parts and fluid inclusive.
Drain fluid, replace filter, check kickdown cable adjustment, clean magnet, clean sump, replace gasket, replenish fluid, adjust both bands. TBH I'd like £110 for just doing that little lot, even if I was doing it parts and fluid inclusive.
stina
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Cheers Harvey . I like links with proper phone numbers , i'll look through over the weekend and order the filter Monday , get the fluid from the Jock at the local factors and we'll have a crack at her next Saturday , all being well :wink:
Many thanks
Ps can even treat myself to a more professional looking torque wrench and still be under budget
Many thanks
Ps can even treat myself to a more professional looking torque wrench and still be under budget
stina
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Hi Harvey . Had a bit of time for a look around the gearbox last weekend , and found the source of the leak . It is coming from the selector shaft that goes through the front servo . The gasket is not leaking but the O ring on the shaft . Obviously i need to remove the front servo to replace the O ring . I have a full 65 gasket kit with the bits i need in it . Is it just a case of removing the servo and replacing the O ring , looks simple enough in the manual , is their anything waiting to catch me out ? Plan having a go tomorrow pm .
Cheers stina
Cheers stina
Clean the area around the servo to avoid anything nasty getting in there while it's apart. Only use ATF or Vaseline to lubricate the seals and hold things in place.
If you just plan to remove the cover and replace the cover seal and the "O" ring on the selector shaft you shouldn't have any problems. If you intend removing the piston and replacing the seals on that then make sure you know how it all comes apart. The book mentions the operating strut, and to be sure that it doesn't drop down, so that's something to be aware of, but I don't remember it being a problem, and it won't be if you don't remove the piston anyway. Shouldn't be a problem if you do though.
What's the worst that can happen.......
If you just plan to remove the cover and replace the cover seal and the "O" ring on the selector shaft you shouldn't have any problems. If you intend removing the piston and replacing the seals on that then make sure you know how it all comes apart. The book mentions the operating strut, and to be sure that it doesn't drop down, so that's something to be aware of, but I don't remember it being a problem, and it won't be if you don't remove the piston anyway. Shouldn't be a problem if you do though.
What's the worst that can happen.......
stina
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Hi Harvey . Removed the servo and replaced the selector O ring and new gasket . Looks like it's stopped the leak . Time will tell . Next project is to drop the sump and change the filter , but that can wait a week or two . Thanks for the help , looking forward to not leaving a tell tale fluid patch every where i go