1969 (soon to be) 2000ti TURBO INJECTION!
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Re: First car and first project.
There's been a post recently about a new type of LED replacement lamp that has LED's on the side to shine into the filament bulb reflector as well as pointing backwards. The comment was that if you put a clear one behind a red lens it still shows clear; you need to use a red one. I'm hoping to try an amber one behind a red lens and see if that will still show amber.
eg http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2X-36-LED-Car...ZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27ade52780
Chris
There's been a post recently about a new type of LED replacement lamp that has LED's on the side to shine into the filament bulb reflector as well as pointing backwards. The comment was that if you put a clear one behind a red lens it still shows clear; you need to use a red one. I'm hoping to try an amber one behind a red lens and see if that will still show amber.
eg http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2X-36-LED-Car...ZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27ade52780
Chris
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I saw a custom car a few months back where all the lamp clusters were body colour, but emitted the correct colour light for each section !, a bit chav, especially as it was an Astra van or something similar, but very interesting, no idea how legal they would be.
I saw a custom car a few months back where all the lamp clusters were body colour, but emitted the correct colour light for each section !, a bit chav, especially as it was an Astra van or something similar, but very interesting, no idea how legal they would be.
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These were an Italian and US option - the all clear front.
Maybe some other Euro countries as well
Mark Gray or Nick Dunning would know better as they know more about options than me
The US NADA also had an all amber front option ( amber sidelights anyone?)
You can pick second hand ones up on US eBay if you look.
That's where I got all mine and spare second hand ones from Ian Wilson at Rover Classics when he was importing full NADA cars.
sowen said:
These were an Italian and US option - the all clear front.
Maybe some other Euro countries as well
Mark Gray or Nick Dunning would know better as they know more about options than me
The US NADA also had an all amber front option ( amber sidelights anyone?)
You can pick second hand ones up on US eBay if you look.
That's where I got all mine and spare second hand ones from Ian Wilson at Rover Classics when he was importing full NADA cars.
tolson2000sc
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TBH i dont have the money to be spending on anything like that atm iv just had to fork out for a new battery :cry: points, condenser and coil, the guy took the sticker off my old coil and brought me my new one but it must have been wrong as within 2 days it let me down and stranded me in laisterdyke near bradford (not the nicest place) while trying to get home to wales i had the other in my boot but it didnt cross my mind that that may be the problem as there were also other issues like fuel mixture and points gap just standard stuff so got recovered the 163 miles home (guess iv still got alot to learn) all that stuff is sorted now, was supposed to be going back to bradford today but with this weather i didnt bother but will try again tomorrow.
The dust caps arnt anti theft and came from a bike shop (had to buy 2pairs) they seem more likly to fall off than get stuck on anyway.
TBH i dont have the money to be spending on anything like that atm iv just had to fork out for a new battery :cry: points, condenser and coil, the guy took the sticker off my old coil and brought me my new one but it must have been wrong as within 2 days it let me down and stranded me in laisterdyke near bradford (not the nicest place) while trying to get home to wales i had the other in my boot but it didnt cross my mind that that may be the problem as there were also other issues like fuel mixture and points gap just standard stuff so got recovered the 163 miles home (guess iv still got alot to learn) all that stuff is sorted now, was supposed to be going back to bradford today but with this weather i didnt bother but will try again tomorrow.
The dust caps arnt anti theft and came from a bike shop (had to buy 2pairs) they seem more likly to fall off than get stuck on anyway.
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Hi i love what your doing to your rover , i like it when people put ther own stamp on a car , and its given me some ideas what to do to mine , i love the front looks really good
you have a lovely car and its great that you are interested in the old rovers at such a young age at least they will live on a bit longer
i love it
regards
marcus
Hi i love what your doing to your rover , i like it when people put ther own stamp on a car , and its given me some ideas what to do to mine , i love the front looks really good
you have a lovely car and its great that you are interested in the old rovers at such a young age at least they will live on a bit longer
i love it
regards
marcus
tolson2000sc
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Thanks mate ive still got a lot to do on it and im starting with the brown one soon i hope to run that as a daily while i work on the white one and try and get the body work up to a better standard.
but there is an awful lot of work to do on that to get an mot.
but thanks for the comments.
Thanks mate ive still got a lot to do on it and im starting with the brown one soon i hope to run that as a daily while i work on the white one and try and get the body work up to a better standard.
but there is an awful lot of work to do on that to get an mot.
but thanks for the comments.
The Rovering Member
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As do I:
I've been running them for a year now. You can also see where I mounted my bullet mirrors, on the bonnet.
They go rather well with the Lucas reflector/running lights I recently fitted to the wings (the rear ones are red).
If you can see the front. I've said it before & I'll say it again, this site is really annoying the way it crops pictures (on Firefox, Chrome & Explorer which are the three browsers I've got).
Oracle said:
As do I:
Oracle said:
I've been running them for a year now. You can also see where I mounted my bullet mirrors, on the bonnet.
They go rather well with the Lucas reflector/running lights I recently fitted to the wings (the rear ones are red).
If you can see the front. I've said it before & I'll say it again, this site is really annoying the way it crops pictures (on Firefox, Chrome & Explorer which are the three browsers I've got).
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I've had a look and tweaked the style slightly, it's tricky for me because I can't reproduce the cropping on either IE or Firefox on my machine, but I did find something that might help.
Let me know if this has helped. You may need to fully refresh (use CTRL & F5) to get the new style.
I've had a look and tweaked the style slightly, it's tricky for me because I can't reproduce the cropping on either IE or Firefox on my machine, but I did find something that might help.
Let me know if this has helped. You may need to fully refresh (use CTRL & F5) to get the new style.
The Rovering Member
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Yes, that has helped. It's given me a slider bar so I can bring the right hand of the pictures into view.
Thank you Richard.
Yes, that has helped. It's given me a slider bar so I can bring the right hand of the pictures into view.
Thank you Richard.
tolson2000sc
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So...... long time no speek and thigs have got a little rough for the old girl, the valve clearences hve reduce to nothing and is currently sorn but i did a little work to her the other day and replace the front end with the half painted fiber glass one and thats about it other than it now has s1 bumpers on it. Im now trying to save for a doner car but im stuck between two ideas i want to put a k series or t series between the wings but im not sure weather to turbo it on to go with webbers or bike carbs depending on the avalibility of cheap webbers from my boss, any ideas? i prefer the sound of an engine on carbs and it would be an easier project but like the idea of ther extra power from a turbo mainly because as you may know my dad is converting his 3500s to a 4.6 fuel injected engine and i want to be able to keep up :roll: .
any suggestions welcome.
So...... long time no speek and thigs have got a little rough for the old girl, the valve clearences hve reduce to nothing and is currently sorn
but i did a little work to her the other day and replace the front end with the half painted fiber glass one and thats about it other than it now has s1 bumpers on it. Im now trying to save for a doner car but im stuck between two ideas i want to put a k series or t series between the wings but im not sure weather to turbo it on to go with webbers or bike carbs depending on the avalibility of cheap webbers from my boss, any ideas? i prefer the sound of an engine on carbs and it would be an easier project but like the idea of ther extra power from a turbo mainly because as you may know my dad is converting his 3500s to a 4.6 fuel injected engine and i want to be able to keep up :roll: .any suggestions welcome.
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Hi Ally
Well the minimum you are commited for is a head overhaul, or better a TC head. The TC has individual inlet tracts, so could really carry anything you wanted - up to four throttle bodies or even a pair of DCUE's.
A K series transplant would be good sport, but my instinct is that you would need to spend quite a lot on it berore you fiited it - at least the head gasket and through bolt upgrade. So it would be a much bigger project than just an engine swap. And getting a rear drive gearbox onto it could be tricky.
Much better would be a T16 transplant. This engine is essentially an O series with a 16 valve head, so can be easily converted to lengthwise using the sump and gearbox etc from a Sherpa van. In multi point injection form I believe it is good for around 140 bhp so wont be a slouch. If you can get hold of a Turbo variant it is a seriously nice motor. But there are a few issues with the front end of the turbo to turn it through 180. Webmaster Richard knows about these, so no doubt he'll reply. Again, the standard rngine could easily be run on DCOE's to avoid engine management issues, but it might be a good idea to do a trial lay up of some carbs to judge whether there is enough clearance to the inner wing.
Once you've upped the power you're likely to want to run a V8 diff, both for strength (extra planet wheels) and to realise the top speed - a bit of a screaming sprinter otherwise. And you'll defintely want to do something about the front brakes (V8 uprights and calipers are a straight swop) - but your Dad can help you out there.
Chris
Hi Ally
Well the minimum you are commited for is a head overhaul, or better a TC head. The TC has individual inlet tracts, so could really carry anything you wanted - up to four throttle bodies or even a pair of DCUE's.
A K series transplant would be good sport, but my instinct is that you would need to spend quite a lot on it berore you fiited it - at least the head gasket and through bolt upgrade. So it would be a much bigger project than just an engine swap. And getting a rear drive gearbox onto it could be tricky.
Much better would be a T16 transplant. This engine is essentially an O series with a 16 valve head, so can be easily converted to lengthwise using the sump and gearbox etc from a Sherpa van. In multi point injection form I believe it is good for around 140 bhp so wont be a slouch. If you can get hold of a Turbo variant it is a seriously nice motor. But there are a few issues with the front end of the turbo to turn it through 180. Webmaster Richard knows about these, so no doubt he'll reply. Again, the standard rngine could easily be run on DCOE's to avoid engine management issues, but it might be a good idea to do a trial lay up of some carbs to judge whether there is enough clearance to the inner wing.
Once you've upped the power you're likely to want to run a V8 diff, both for strength (extra planet wheels) and to realise the top speed - a bit of a screaming sprinter otherwise. And you'll defintely want to do something about the front brakes (V8 uprights and calipers are a straight swop) - but your Dad can help you out there.
Chris
tolson2000sc
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well he prefers to let me do my own work on my car, but iv already got put v8 calipers and disks on it and i would be tempted to use ebc green stuff pads. the diff would just come from the spares car and the lt77 from my dads as the sherpa runs an lt77 so a bell housing would be spot on. the t16 is the one im looking for if im going with a turbo as its rated for slightly highter psi and has a less complicated ecu. the k series would only be used with carbs in which case the head would be off and skimmed for compression reasons anyway and if i could afford it at the time some lumpy cams.
Id want some where near 180 - 200bhp with carbs and 250 with a turbo :twisted: but which set up would impress you more at a show?
i have thought about a tc head running twin 45s but I dont belive fast road cams are avalible the comp ratio is already high cant buy light weight flighwheels so if i wanted decent power out of it i would be in for the long haul but i do like the idea of a tuned up tc but my local scrappy wanted £250 :shock: for the head of one thats been there 15years and isnt allowed to be put back on the road. :shock:
well he prefers to let me do my own work on my car, but iv already got put v8 calipers and disks on it and i would be tempted to use ebc green stuff pads. the diff would just come from the spares car and the lt77 from my dads as the sherpa runs an lt77 so a bell housing would be spot on. the t16 is the one im looking for if im going with a turbo as its rated for slightly highter psi and has a less complicated ecu. the k series would only be used with carbs in which case the head would be off and skimmed for compression reasons anyway and if i could afford it at the time some lumpy cams.
Id want some where near 180 - 200bhp with carbs and 250 with a turbo :twisted: but which set up would impress you more at a show?
i have thought about a tc head running twin 45s but I dont belive fast road cams are avalible the comp ratio is already high cant buy light weight flighwheels so if i wanted decent power out of it i would be in for the long haul but i do like the idea of a tuned up tc but my local scrappy wanted £250 :shock: for the head of one thats been there 15years and isnt allowed to be put back on the road. :shock:
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I'm pretty sure most people at shows are going to be fairly bemused by any non P6 engine! Personally I'd prefer to see a non turbo T16, or even better an injected O series) as I think that suits the character of the car better. The P6 nearly got a twin cam anyway! That's how the 2200 capacity came about, it was all that remained after BL cancelled Rover's new small four pot. It was a 2200 8 valve injected DOHC unit, designed to be built on the same tooling as the existing engine. Hence why it was easy to transfer the capacity over to the 2200 models. It had been destined to be the small engine in P8, ie 2200DOHC four and 4.4ltr V8.
So I'd suggest two options, based on achievability.
1 Buy a complete 2200TC motor (the 22TC has bigger valves than the 2000 - more space in the bores for them - and is more oversquare, same stroke as the 2000) and fit either 45DCOE's or throttle bodies. You should be able to get a 2200TC pretty easily on here.
2 Fit a T16 running on 45DCOE's through an LT77. I think the turbo version is too much trouble for what you will gain and you might find you're off the road for a long time doing it. I would have thought a T16 on 45's with a decent exhaust should be OK for at least 180. The T16 is used in this configuration in the Morgan and is a standard shoe in for MGB's, so there should be plenty of info around.
Chris
I'm pretty sure most people at shows are going to be fairly bemused by any non P6 engine! Personally I'd prefer to see a non turbo T16, or even better an injected O series) as I think that suits the character of the car better. The P6 nearly got a twin cam anyway! That's how the 2200 capacity came about, it was all that remained after BL cancelled Rover's new small four pot. It was a 2200 8 valve injected DOHC unit, designed to be built on the same tooling as the existing engine. Hence why it was easy to transfer the capacity over to the 2200 models. It had been destined to be the small engine in P8, ie 2200DOHC four and 4.4ltr V8.
So I'd suggest two options, based on achievability.
1 Buy a complete 2200TC motor (the 22TC has bigger valves than the 2000 - more space in the bores for them - and is more oversquare, same stroke as the 2000) and fit either 45DCOE's or throttle bodies. You should be able to get a 2200TC pretty easily on here.
2 Fit a T16 running on 45DCOE's through an LT77. I think the turbo version is too much trouble for what you will gain and you might find you're off the road for a long time doing it. I would have thought a T16 on 45's with a decent exhaust should be OK for at least 180. The T16 is used in this configuration in the Morgan and is a standard shoe in for MGB's, so there should be plenty of info around.
Chris
tolson2000sc
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im not really up for 2200tc at the moment i may build one up in the long term to put in a bit of a ratter to muck about with and use as a sleeper but in the slightly ''less long term'' I want a dohc, If I can't get some cheap carbs off my boss i will go for bike carbs or TB's I really dont want injection the only reason i would would be if it had a turbo because i like the way engines sound on carbs and i dont want to mess around with ecus and wiering unless i had the added power of a turbo otherwise i just cant see injection being worth the hassel.
im not really up for 2200tc at the moment i may build one up in the long term to put in a bit of a ratter to muck about with and use as a sleeper but in the slightly ''less long term'' I want a dohc, If I can't get some cheap carbs off my boss i will go for bike carbs or TB's I really dont want injection the only reason i would would be if it had a turbo because i like the way engines sound on carbs and i dont want to mess around with ecus and wiering unless i had the added power of a turbo otherwise i just cant see injection being worth the hassel.
josephp6man
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hi,
i do have a 60,000 mile 2200 TC engine complete and can be heard running.
ian
hi,
i do have a 60,000 mile 2200 TC engine complete and can be heard running.
ian
tolson2000sc
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well kind of want a twin cam but if the price is right I may have to start saving pm me a price.
well kind of want a twin cam but if the price is right I may have to start saving pm me a price.