PAE .... Sleipnir???
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Well I had a bright idea... Occurred to me that there was a possibility that some coolant could have got into the oil during the headgasket change. So one oil change later it seems OK. Also spotted the breather pipe with the 90 degree bend in it had developed a large hole... strange! A piece of garden hose is now doing temporary service until i find another one. Will keep you all updated 
Re: PAE .... Sleipnir??? Now not charging...
Hi all,
Got a problem with the battery not charging. It's a newish battery, so seems strange that i'd have an issue with that. Also the ignition light isnt coming on to show that it's not charging. I dont think the alternator setup is standard, however i have a spare 6RA. Is that likely to be worth changing? Is there anything else that might cause this issue? If not I'm going to have to bite the bullet and get a standard alternator i think. If it was an earthing issue would i get the ignition light come on to signify charging issues or not?
Thanks in advance!
Rich
Hi all,
Got a problem with the battery not charging. It's a newish battery, so seems strange that i'd have an issue with that. Also the ignition light isnt coming on to show that it's not charging. I dont think the alternator setup is standard, however i have a spare 6RA. Is that likely to be worth changing? Is there anything else that might cause this issue? If not I'm going to have to bite the bullet and get a standard alternator i think. If it was an earthing issue would i get the ignition light come on to signify charging issues or not?
Thanks in advance!
Rich
IIRC 11AC alternators will still charge if the warning light isn't working, but ACR alternators definitely won't. There's a test procedure for the 11AC system in the WM so probably best to work your way through that. (After checking all the things you touched while you had the heads off, including anything you may have dislodged while leaning over the wings...)
rockdemon said:
back of the alternator... is that an 18acr? And therefore wiring bodged to fit on an older car?
It's not an 18ACR, and it doesn't look like an 11AC either, although it is similar. You may be right about it being non standard, the wiring certainly is..... :?
Hi Rich,
When you say that your battery is not charging, your ammeter is registering a discharge I take it?
Ron.
When you say that your battery is not charging, your ammeter is registering a discharge I take it?
Ron.
problem is with it always having been this way that i have no idea what these components are. The regulator can on the side (i assume thats what it is?) has never been connected. The 6RA was hinted at as being faulty a while ago so i bought one just in case which i still have but it wasnt needed as it turned out. was the battery.
Should i try the new 6ra?
In this situation am i best getting a new alternator of the correct type, and fitting it with new wiring at the same time?
If so, which is the best alternator to get? 11AC, 18ACR or another sort i havent discovered as yet?
Car working quickly is more important than cost within reason...
Thanks,
Rich.
Should i try the new 6ra?
In this situation am i best getting a new alternator of the correct type, and fitting it with new wiring at the same time?
If so, which is the best alternator to get? 11AC, 18ACR or another sort i havent discovered as yet?
Car working quickly is more important than cost within reason...
Thanks,
Rich.
Hi Ron,
no ammeter on an s1 - so i dont know that, however i drove 25 miles to my mum and dads and the dials on the dash all started to go south. WHen we got there wouldnt restart. jumped fine, and that sent the dash instruments back to where it should be. Drove back home ( without rain so no heater or wipers on) but tried starting it immediately on stopping and no go...
No ignition warning light to show that it's not charging though.
no ammeter on an s1 - so i dont know that, however i drove 25 miles to my mum and dads and the dials on the dash all started to go south. WHen we got there wouldnt restart. jumped fine, and that sent the dash instruments back to where it should be. Drove back home ( without rain so no heater or wipers on) but tried starting it immediately on stopping and no go...
No ignition warning light to show that it's not charging though.
The electrical connections for the 11AC and the 18ACR are quite different as are the mounts that attach them to the engine. The 6RA is a relay isn't it? Why do you have one for the alternator? I thought that the 11AC used a 4TR which the 18ACR does not as the voltage regulator for the latter is internal to the unit. Is your 4TR still connected?
Ron.
Ron.
If your ignition light is not illuminated to suggest a problem, does it illuminate when the engine is off and you turn the ignition key to position 2?
Ron.
Ron.
On the wiring diagram this leads to (1) relay for ignition warning light. Which in turn is connected directly to the alternator which is where the wiring has nothing to correlate with.
Any idea where the relay it's talking about lives? The light is supplied from (4) relay for alternator but the oil pressure light works so at least in supply current terms i think this can be excluded?
Rich
Any idea where the relay it's talking about lives? The light is supplied from (4) relay for alternator but the oil pressure light works so at least in supply current terms i think this can be excluded?
Rich
Hmm, well that needs to be reconnected into the circuit so that it functions as it should. I take it that the previous owner Rich had this alternator installed?
You might have to start from scratch Rich, go right through the wiring and see if you can sort it out or replace it with an 11AC given that your ignition switch is different to those that run with the 18ACR as standard.
Ron.
You might have to start from scratch Rich, go right through the wiring and see if you can sort it out or replace it with an 11AC given that your ignition switch is different to those that run with the 18ACR as standard.
Ron.