My project... Now MOTed!! ... Again..
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Re: My project... More progress now...
Well, I spent most of yesterday trying to get the front passenger wing to line up nicely with the door, and getting the front valance on again. after spending a good hour with the valance to wing fittings, all was well... Or so I thought until I tried to fit the front bumper on, and found the bumper irons were 3/4" too close together. This reinforces my theory about a front end impact in a former life, although not a big one, as there's no sign of any chassis damage. So after all the faff of fitting the valance, I had to remove it again, and straighten out the bumper irons. The funny thing is, they didn't look bent at all. With the valance removed, I put a piece of scaffold pole over the bumper irons and teased them apart slightly. I have to say the valance fits a lot better now, as does the bumper, but I think this is an area I'm going to have to revisit sometime. That's the trouble with buying a car that has been stripped already. I also found some more welding... :cry: I was cleaning off some old flaky underseal under the front passenger footwell, where it joins on to the sill, and pulled out a lump of filler and rust. Lifted the carpet inside, and could see the floor underneath the car in one small place :shock: I'm afraid I was on a mission at this point, so forgot to take pics, but after cleaning away the area, I welded a plate in. There was what looks like a jacking point in the way, although I think it was for the jig in the factory, so I cut it out, cleaned it up, and welded it back in place afterwards. I wish I'd taken more pics now, but never mind.. I did take one after the welding was done though..
Just need to paint and schutz it now...
Well, I spent most of yesterday trying to get the front passenger wing to line up nicely with the door, and getting the front valance on again. after spending a good hour with the valance to wing fittings, all was well... Or so I thought until I tried to fit the front bumper on, and found the bumper irons were 3/4" too close together. This reinforces my theory about a front end impact in a former life, although not a big one, as there's no sign of any chassis damage. So after all the faff of fitting the valance, I had to remove it again, and straighten out the bumper irons. The funny thing is, they didn't look bent at all. With the valance removed, I put a piece of scaffold pole over the bumper irons and teased them apart slightly. I have to say the valance fits a lot better now, as does the bumper, but I think this is an area I'm going to have to revisit sometime. That's the trouble with buying a car that has been stripped already. I also found some more welding... :cry: I was cleaning off some old flaky underseal under the front passenger footwell, where it joins on to the sill, and pulled out a lump of filler and rust. Lifted the carpet inside, and could see the floor underneath the car in one small place :shock: I'm afraid I was on a mission at this point, so forgot to take pics, but after cleaning away the area, I welded a plate in. There was what looks like a jacking point in the way, although I think it was for the jig in the factory, so I cut it out, cleaned it up, and welded it back in place afterwards. I wish I'd taken more pics now, but never mind.. I did take one after the welding was done though..
Just need to paint and schutz it now...
Re: My project... More progress now...
I couldn't work out what that bit was for. It does look like a jack locator but that piece of the floor wouldn't take the force of a jack, and I have never seen a jack to fit into it.
So, I must admit I didn't bother replacing it as its only use that I could see was to trap mud and rust the floor away.
Car is looking good btw, you'll soon be driving it
I hope you like the distinctive drive of the P6 after all of that work
Richard
I couldn't work out what that bit was for. It does look like a jack locator but that piece of the floor wouldn't take the force of a jack, and I have never seen a jack to fit into it.
So, I must admit I didn't bother replacing it as its only use that I could see was to trap mud and rust the floor away.
Car is looking good btw, you'll soon be driving it
I hope you like the distinctive drive of the P6 after all of that work
Richard
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I can't wait... I'm hoping it'll be ready for a ticket by the end of the month.. In time for summer! 8)
But we'll see... :|
The good thing is I spent a very enjoyable afternoon in the garden with a beer or two polishing up the chrome bits. The front bumper looks almost as good as new.
Can't think of a better way to spend time in the sun productively... I've also discovered that her indoors is better at polishing chrome than I am, so it looks like she'll have that job now! I'll believe that when I see it..
quattro said:Car is looking good btw, you'll soon be driving it
I hope you like the distinctive drive of the P6 after all of that work
Richard
I can't wait...
I'm hoping it'll be ready for a ticket by the end of the month.. In time for summer! 8) But we'll see... :|
The good thing is I spent a very enjoyable afternoon in the garden with a beer or two polishing up the chrome bits. The front bumper looks almost as good as new.
Can't think of a better way to spend time in the sun productively... I've also discovered that her indoors is better at polishing chrome than I am, so it looks like she'll have that job now! I'll believe that when I see it..
Re: My project... More progress now...
Well, I've had a couple of days off from the Rover due to work, but my Pertronix ignitor & flamethrower coil showed up this morning, so I've spent a fiddly morning fitting it. I fed the red power lead for the ignitor from the washer bottle feed, as someone else has done on here, and the old girl fired up beautifully, although I think I'm going to have to replace the plugs & leads. There is a slight misfire when cold, which I traced to the rear lead or plug on the driver's side, and was doing it when running with points too.. It's hardly surprising really, as I've not had the plugs out yet, and they've been run a fair bit on choke, just moving the car about. I do leave it running for about 15 minutes each time I start it to let her warm up and get the oil circulating, but a full service is on the cards before I start using the car. I've also fitted a pair of K&N filters, which seems to have cleaned the exhaust up a bit, (no black smoke out the end when revved now, which is what I was getting with the stock filters, but they were probably clogged anyway). I'll see how it goes, but I may need to fiddle about with the carb needle size, but won't know about that til I get it on the road.
I've heard a fair bit about magnecor leads, which seem quite expensive, but we'll see how changing the plugs goes first. I like the throttle response with the pertronix ignitor fitted, seems to pick up quicker when revved a bit, and doesn't have any flat spots. With the points, the car would be a bit flat at about 2000rpm, and didn't like revving much higher.
Well, I've had a couple of days off from the Rover due to work, but my Pertronix ignitor & flamethrower coil showed up this morning, so I've spent a fiddly morning fitting it. I fed the red power lead for the ignitor from the washer bottle feed, as someone else has done on here, and the old girl fired up beautifully, although I think I'm going to have to replace the plugs & leads. There is a slight misfire when cold, which I traced to the rear lead or plug on the driver's side, and was doing it when running with points too.. It's hardly surprising really, as I've not had the plugs out yet, and they've been run a fair bit on choke, just moving the car about. I do leave it running for about 15 minutes each time I start it to let her warm up and get the oil circulating, but a full service is on the cards before I start using the car. I've also fitted a pair of K&N filters, which seems to have cleaned the exhaust up a bit, (no black smoke out the end when revved now, which is what I was getting with the stock filters, but they were probably clogged anyway). I'll see how it goes, but I may need to fiddle about with the carb needle size, but won't know about that til I get it on the road.
I've heard a fair bit about magnecor leads, which seem quite expensive, but we'll see how changing the plugs goes first. I like the throttle response with the pertronix ignitor fitted, seems to pick up quicker when revved a bit, and doesn't have any flat spots. With the points, the car would be a bit flat at about 2000rpm, and didn't like revving much higher.
Dave3066
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Re: My project... More progress now...
Well done Good to hear you've had no problems.
I'll reiterate what I said in another thread about knowing which fuse protects the washer bottle pump and what else it protects. Useful to know because if it blows the engine dies.
I carry a copy of the wiring diagram in the car now
Dave
V8P6B said:
Well done
Good to hear you've had no problems.I'll reiterate what I said in another thread about knowing which fuse protects the washer bottle pump and what else it protects. Useful to know because if it blows the engine dies.
I carry a copy of the wiring diagram in the car now
Dave
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I'm gonna do that too. I've also bought a big bag of fuses of Ebay to sit in the glovebox with it, and I've got a neat little pocket DVM the size of a credit card, which 'll probably ive there too. At least my car only has 4 fuses..
Dave3066 said:I'll reiterate what I said in another thread about knowing which fuse protects the washer bottle pump and what else it protects. Useful to know because if it blows the engine dies.
I carry a copy of the wiring diagram in the car now
Dave
I'm gonna do that too. I've also bought a big bag of fuses of Ebay to sit in the glovebox with it, and I've got a neat little pocket DVM the size of a credit card, which 'll probably ive there too. At least my car only has 4 fuses..
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Well, I think I spoke too soon about everything being totally ok. Went to start it cold today and got the impression that it didn't want to start, ignition timing seems a little too advanced, occasionally kicking back slightly against the starter. Eventually got it running but it cut out after a minute or so, still, it was warm enough to do what I wanted to do, which was to pull the spark plugs. I've always been told to do them warm if you can, makes them easier to remove, don't know if that's true. Anyway, they came out easily enough, using the original Rover box spanner, which was good, but then confusion set in. I want to go for Champion L92YC's, as these seem to be the ones people have the most success with. The plugs I took out are Bosch Super W7BC's, which don't cross reference to L92YC's...?
They certainly fit ok, so I'm going to go with the Champions. The Bosch plugs were pretty black & sooty, but I was half expecting that with the car being started a lot just to move it lately. I think a new set of leads will be sourced too. I'm also going to get my strobe out to set the timing & see where its at. I was half expecting having to do that anyway, switching from points to pertronix, so we'll see. Off to try & find some Champion plugs now..
Well, I think I spoke too soon about everything being totally ok. Went to start it cold today and got the impression that it didn't want to start, ignition timing seems a little too advanced, occasionally kicking back slightly against the starter. Eventually got it running but it cut out after a minute or so, still, it was warm enough to do what I wanted to do, which was to pull the spark plugs. I've always been told to do them warm if you can, makes them easier to remove, don't know if that's true. Anyway, they came out easily enough, using the original Rover box spanner, which was good, but then confusion set in. I want to go for Champion L92YC's, as these seem to be the ones people have the most success with. The plugs I took out are Bosch Super W7BC's, which don't cross reference to L92YC's...?
They certainly fit ok, so I'm going to go with the Champions. The Bosch plugs were pretty black & sooty, but I was half expecting that with the car being started a lot just to move it lately. I think a new set of leads will be sourced too. I'm also going to get my strobe out to set the timing & see where its at. I was half expecting having to do that anyway, switching from points to pertronix, so we'll see. Off to try & find some Champion plugs now..
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Mmm, it seems Champion Spark plugs are like hens teeth.. Mr Motor Factor guy says that since production was switched abroad, quality has deteriorated so much, a lot of motor factors won't stock them any more. Managed to get some from The Green Spark plug company for £1.95 each + vat +£3 postage. Doesn't seem too bad. There are only 4 people selling them on Ebay too
Mmm, it seems Champion Spark plugs are like hens teeth.. Mr Motor Factor guy says that since production was switched abroad, quality has deteriorated so much, a lot of motor factors won't stock them any more. Managed to get some from The Green Spark plug company for £1.95 each + vat +£3 postage. Doesn't seem too bad. There are only 4 people selling them on Ebay too
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Lucky uses Bosch Super 4's with the four earthing spikes for the electrode instead of just the one. Might be irridium in there as well, but I'm not certain about that. The theory is that the spark has a choice of directions to go from the electrode, so you can be pretty sure of one of them being through the most favourable zone of mixture. A single pillar plug relies on you happening to screw it in in the best orientation. Quality of these plugs seems to be top notch too. NOT cheap....
Chris
Lucky uses Bosch Super 4's with the four earthing spikes for the electrode instead of just the one. Might be irridium in there as well, but I'm not certain about that. The theory is that the spark has a choice of directions to go from the electrode, so you can be pretty sure of one of them being through the most favourable zone of mixture. A single pillar plug relies on you happening to screw it in in the best orientation. Quality of these plugs seems to be top notch too. NOT cheap....
Chris
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As I was writing it, I knew someone was going to ask that! I've mislaid the boxes so I'll have to start from scratch looking them up again. Factors have an equivalence chart for them to convert from L92YC's or whatever.
I'll have a look tomorrow - I'm very tired from wrestling with a non starting 2200 Auto on a motorway roundabout.....
Chris
As I was writing it, I knew someone was going to ask that! I've mislaid the boxes so I'll have to start from scratch looking them up again. Factors have an equivalence chart for them to convert from L92YC's or whatever.
I'll have a look tomorrow - I'm very tired from wrestling with a non starting 2200 Auto on a motorway roundabout.....
Chris
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Managed to borrow my mates timing light, which has a dial in knob, so you can set it to your desired BTDC setting, and strobe it to the TDC mark on the pulley. Before adjusting it, I got it running, then turned the dial on the gun until the pointer lined up with TDC mark when strobed. My timing was 16 degrees BTDC, so it looked as if it needed adjusting after the Pertronix ignitor was fitted. I've set it to 6 deg BTDC now, that seems to be the figure quoted in the Rover manual, and it starts better, and runs ok. I think I still need some new leads though, and I may get a new dizzy cap too. It's got fresh petrol in it, but it still doesn't sound quite right; the revs are a bit erratic, and still won't "start on the button" I think it just needs a methodical plod through everything, I think I'll change the fuel filter, service the carbs, change the leads and cap, and replace the spark plugs, but at least it seems to run reasonably ok, considering its been laid up for 6 years now, and is quite willing to pick the revs up quickly when you blip the throttle. Oil pressure seems ok too, it reads about 25 - 30 psi at tickover when warm, and goes up to about 40 - 45 when you pick the revs up a bit.
I've also got the front wings and lower valance back on after changing the splash seals, and put the front bumper, grilles and number plate back on. so it all looks finished at the front. I'll take some more pics when I've got the side trims and sill covers on. They need painting, as they're currently the same brown as the car (mexico), I think they'll look better in black.
V8P6B said:
Managed to borrow my mates timing light, which has a dial in knob, so you can set it to your desired BTDC setting, and strobe it to the TDC mark on the pulley. Before adjusting it, I got it running, then turned the dial on the gun until the pointer lined up with TDC mark when strobed. My timing was 16 degrees BTDC, so it looked as if it needed adjusting after the Pertronix ignitor was fitted. I've set it to 6 deg BTDC now, that seems to be the figure quoted in the Rover manual, and it starts better, and runs ok. I think I still need some new leads though, and I may get a new dizzy cap too. It's got fresh petrol in it, but it still doesn't sound quite right; the revs are a bit erratic, and still won't "start on the button" I think it just needs a methodical plod through everything, I think I'll change the fuel filter, service the carbs, change the leads and cap, and replace the spark plugs, but at least it seems to run reasonably ok, considering its been laid up for 6 years now, and is quite willing to pick the revs up quickly when you blip the throttle. Oil pressure seems ok too, it reads about 25 - 30 psi at tickover when warm, and goes up to about 40 - 45 when you pick the revs up a bit.
I've also got the front wings and lower valance back on after changing the splash seals, and put the front bumper, grilles and number plate back on. so it all looks finished at the front. I'll take some more pics when I've got the side trims and sill covers on. They need painting, as they're currently the same brown as the car (mexico), I think they'll look better in black.
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It's almost finished! Just the sill covers to paint & put on, and 3 of the doorcards to fit up, and it's MOT time!
The paintwork will be done slowtime, once the car's on the road, I've got a spare set of panels, but the old girl doesn't look too bad. I have resprayed both the back doors, as they were quite scabby before, but now the colour mismatch is visible, although it shows more on the photograph. I'm thinking maybe ultimately a colour change eventually, although I quite like mexico brown, it seems to look better on a S2 with black number plates & S wheeltrims. The Lucas Square 8's set it off nicely too. When I finally do the paintwork properly, I have got a set of Richard (Quattro's) police spoilers to go on the front, along with a set of 5 SD1 vitesse alloys, but for the purposes of getting the car on the road, the current wheels & tyres are fine.
Got the engine running nicely again now, I think the previous problem was mainly down to stale fuel. It ran out of that, and ran much nicer once some nice fresh petrol was put in. :roll:
It's almost finished! Just the sill covers to paint & put on, and 3 of the doorcards to fit up, and it's MOT time!
The paintwork will be done slowtime, once the car's on the road, I've got a spare set of panels, but the old girl doesn't look too bad. I have resprayed both the back doors, as they were quite scabby before, but now the colour mismatch is visible, although it shows more on the photograph. I'm thinking maybe ultimately a colour change eventually, although I quite like mexico brown, it seems to look better on a S2 with black number plates & S wheeltrims. The Lucas Square 8's set it off nicely too. When I finally do the paintwork properly, I have got a set of Richard (Quattro's) police spoilers to go on the front, along with a set of 5 SD1 vitesse alloys, but for the purposes of getting the car on the road, the current wheels & tyres are fine.
Got the engine running nicely again now, I think the previous problem was mainly down to stale fuel. It ran out of that, and ran much nicer once some nice fresh petrol was put in. :roll: