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Re: Roller rockers

Where would I get roller rockers from?
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http://www.harlandsharp.com their part number: STR8 about US$400 plus postage, order direct from them; note this part number is not on their site, but they have 'em. Cheapest roller rocker set out there for the Rover V8 ( Buick 215 ) US$ has never been cheaper ( ! ) Flash the plastic before the x-change rate changes ( ! )

and found that you could get roller rocker sets for V8 engines from as little as US$129.00
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Yes indeed, small block Chev., which don't fit our engines; it's much cheaper to build an SBC, that's for sure

DD: see you're on the "OldSchool NZ" forum, it's a hoot! Good luck with your project :D

GW
 
Have you ever looked at performance figures from roller followers?? also do you have roller rockers insatlled on your engine and have you run it yet, love to hear your impression of the difference.

graeme
 
Hello Graham-
do you have the OS address of the firm you dealt with for the pertronics ignitor 11 and coil ?.Ive got a 72 P6b and live in the super city too.,looking to upgrade as you have
Regards Gerald
 
GRTV8 said:
Hello Graham-
do you have the OS address of the firm you dealt with for the pertronics ignitor 11 and coil ?.Ive got a 72 P6b and live in the super city too.,looking to upgrade as you have
Regards Gerald
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Hi Gerald the company I dealt with is http://www.carshopinc.com/

Make sure you get the right ignitor unit as there are 2 different distributor base plates

Graeme
 
Have you ever looked at performance figures from roller followers?? also do you have roller rockers insatlled on your engine and have you run it yet, love to hear your impression of the difference.
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Graeme, only can repeat what I've been told; I got a super deal on Yella Terra roller rockers; my engine was only completed last week and the workshop doing the swap ( the old engine and gearbox has already been hauled out and sold ) took delivery of that today
The engine install with the Supra 5-speed behind it is scheduled for completion "sometime this month" so fingers crossed....

The roller rockers needed a 1/2 inch thick plate machined under each rocker cover to give enough clearance; I'm told if you use the Buick 215 Offenhauser cast alloy rocker covers, this isn't an issue　

Noisy
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, hmm, quite possibly, here's a Youtube link of a V8 with a roller cam and roller rockers being run-in　

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viD4URPMbLU

I'll be sure and post pictures +opinions as these become available ( ! ) Project was derailed by a useless workshop ( who shall remain nameless ) that took 9 months to finish my short motor; :cry: but now it looks like we are in the home stretch so I haven't lost any of my enthusiasm :mrgreen:

Speaking of "super deals": the Fedex man just dropped off a pair of (very) 2nd hand Harcourt Racing manifolds, made right there in Christchurch, c/o a followup I made on a kiwi jetboating forum. These are scuffed up, ancient and filthy dirty + have a F5000 history ( ! ) but will clean up nicely with some elbow grease + with a further injection of a ton or 3 of cash ( w-a-a-y down the track, I'm afraid ) will wear 4 x 48IDF Webers :shock:
Picture robbed from D + D's site in the USA ; John Harcourt still makes 'em

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Apologies to Mr. Dougal for my thread hijack BTW

GW
 
Thanks for the info Graham
Just checked their prices c/f NZ sourced -whow big difference
-Go well with your under bonnet tinkering -sound interesting what your doing
Gerald
 
dirtydoogle said:
Does the 3.9 mate up to the BW65 box? What about mounts?
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If you can, it'd be worth upgrading to a better 'box - ZF 4-speed from a Rangey if you want to stick with auto is the obvious one.

If you want to go manual, BW/Tremec T-5 is an option, as is the R380 (common in TVRs and Leyland Sherpas IIRC), and the LT77 (SD1) - or, with a bit more effort, a Toyota Supra 5-speed.

I wonder if there's a Toyota autobox that will fit the Rover V8-to-Toyota gearbox bellhousing? Where's Chrisyork when you need him...
 
EccentricRichard said:
dirtydoogle said:
Does the 3.9 mate up to the BW65 box? What about mounts?
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If you can, it'd be worth upgrading to a better 'box - ZF 4-speed from a Rangey if you want to stick with auto is the obvious one.

If you want to go manual, BW/Tremec T-5 is an option, as is the R380 (common in TVRs and Leyland Sherpas IIRC), and the LT77 (SD1) - or, with a bit more effort, a Toyota Supra 5-speed.

I wonder if there's a Toyota autobox that will fit the Rover V8-to-Toyota gearbox bellhousing? Where's Chrisyork when you need him...
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I was only thinking of leaving it auto for the time being [I have access to a few w55/w58 toyota boxes]



@ TokyoP6B, Cheers mate. Have the boat up for sale now, so shall see what happens. :LOL:
 
Race spec is usually shorthand for all revs and no torque - might not even like idling. Be a shame to afflict that on a roadgoing Rover - it would utterly change the character of the car.

Chris
 
Chris is right on the money here,...being suitable for circuit racing would indicate no good at all for a road going car especially one with an automatic transmission. Buyer beware... :twisted:

Ron.
 
What they said: Duration of 280 degrees plus too much lift = a car that won't idle + will have a narrow power band ( absolute nightmare with an auto! )

Buying a cam for a Rover V8: get the valve springs the cam manufacturer recommends as a set with their cam + don't go much over 270 degrees duration; don't go more than 1mm additional lobe lift ( 10.67mm total ) or you will quickly run into clearance issues and valve spring failure

If you are going to keep your automatic trans. go with a cam that will suit an auto: eg:

Piper ( UK ): http://www.pipercams.co.uk/pipercams/www/product_nav.php?type=C&cat=CM&man=20&engine=44

Almost any cam that fits a Buick 215 will work in the Rover V-8; but the nose of the cam will need machining to fit the Rover cam thrust plate ( any machine shop can do )

Here's an exception: US $149.00: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/215-...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories + Why: 0.445 is too much lift, 0.42 is your absolute limit

Replace your hydraulic lifters with the cam, never use used lifters. Replace your cam bearings too if you can, ( its a workshop job ) Rover cambearings were never available but D+ D have 'em

the WedgeShop have a deal with Erson cams and they will consult with you and grind any lift or duration you want

http://www.thewedgeshopstore.com/products/Erson-Rover-V8-Performance-Cam-Kits-.html

D + D have Crower cams all for 1 price ( US$175.00 ) including some NOS that no-one else has any more....

http://www.aluminumv8.com/catalogpages/enginecomponents.htm

Link to cam install + running-in info.:

http://www.thewedgeshopforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=500
GW
 
Also worth getting in touch with Segedins in Auckland. I did a mild cam on a V8 about 7 years ago and they had a variety of specs available for about $150. (And an Edelbrock 4bbl manifold for $395) They were also remarkably cheap for lifters. Buying stuff from the 'States may be cheaper but make sure you check on the postage costs first, especially on heavy items like camshafts.
 
Thanks guys =) I figure I shouldn't be running a cam that needs a 2800 stall converter :twisted: Would have been serious fun though with a manual box. I'll continue holding my wallet tight until something jumps out.... Like this http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 708327.htm Although I imagine the manifolds wouldn't fit in the P6 guards and I wouldn't run a suck through system, hate the idea. Last turbo conversion I did was blow through so I could use an intercooler....on a 250cc bike...
 
TokyoP6B said:
What they said: Duration of 280 degrees plus too much lift = a car that won't idle + will have a narrow power band ( absolute nightmare with an auto! )

Buying a cam for a Rover V8: get the valve springs the cam manufacturer recommends as a set with their cam + don't go much over 270 degrees duration; don't go more than 1mm additional lobe lift ( 10.67mm total ) or you will quickly run into clearance issues and valve spring failure

If you are going to keep your automatic trans. go with a cam that will suit an auto: eg:

Piper ( UK ): http://www.pipercams.co.uk/pipercams/www/product_nav.php?type=C&cat=CM&man=20&engine=44

Almost any cam that fits a Buick 215 will work in the Rover V-8; but the nose of the cam will need machining to fit the Rover cam thrust plate ( any machine shop can do )

Here's an exception: US $149.00: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/215-...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories + Why: 0.445 is too much lift, 0.42 is your absolute limit

Replace your hydraulic lifters with the cam, never use used lifters. Replace your cam bearings too if you can, ( its a workshop job ) Rover cambearings were never available but D+ D have 'em

the WedgeShop have a deal with Erson cams and they will consult with you and grind any lift or duration you want

http://www.thewedgeshopstore.com/products/Erson-Rover-V8-Performance-Cam-Kits-.html

D + D have Crower cams all for 1 price ( US$175.00 ) including some NOS that no-one else has any more....

http://www.aluminumv8.com/catalogpages/enginecomponents.htm

Link to cam install + running-in info.:

http://www.thewedgeshopforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=500
GW
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Thanks heaps for that mate! It's a fun learning curve with the Rover engine.
 
You could always find one of those Toymotor quad cam V8's think they are 280 Horse as stock but tickle up very easy with their efi setup, I have a contact here in CHCH who has done a lot of work on them for race engines, cheap efficient and heaps more GG's though I am sure there are some fitment issues size wise in the engine bay but you probably also get the bonus of a box made to match. However for all of that the Rov engine is a reliable long lasting unit ( except for camshafts and rockers ) mine has about 225K's on it and is still on the same pistons and rings and bearings from the factory.

Graeme
 
Would rather keep a buick/rover in the P6 to be honest. If I was going any different it would be a chev. The toyota 1uzfe is a great engine, but, I like my carbs and pushrods.... Don't ask why..

On a side note, saw a gorgeous stag with a Toyota 1uzfe crammed under the hood at a swap meet at manfield park a while ago... :twisted: Yummy!!!!
 
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