Coppertops 2000TC
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ghce
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Glassed over welded bits is not a good idea, there will be tears before bedtime with this approach. Metaled areas need to breath as like all sealed areas moisture will be sucked in, and once in will stay in, causing rust (in a short time) no matter how well you thought you had excluded water or sealed that area. The best approach to any metaled area is to ensure that the moisture or water will drain quickly and that there is sufficient ventalation.
Graeme
Graeme
Coppertop
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GHCE
So as a general thought then it would seem my process of tidying up the weld areas may cause an issue further along.
I dont want to generate problems for the future
I will take these views on board and just use the seam sealant over the weld areas where they are not cosmetic repairs.
Shared knowledge is always welcome
Test Rider
The inner plastic arche's I was thinking of would be for the rear arches, where i seem to have the most rot and rust collectivley - Point taken on front arches suspension would be an issue.
Cheers for comments
So as a general thought then it would seem my process of tidying up the weld areas may cause an issue further along.
I dont want to generate problems for the future
I will take these views on board and just use the seam sealant over the weld areas where they are not cosmetic repairs.
Shared knowledge is always welcome
Test Rider
The inner plastic arche's I was thinking of would be for the rear arches, where i seem to have the most rot and rust collectivley - Point taken on front arches suspension would be an issue.
Cheers for comments
testrider
Active Member
I hadn't thought of the rear arches - I always seem to think of the most complex things first rather than the simple solution.
Getting some to fit the rear shouldn't be too difficult, there are plenty of Volvo 240's and 740's etc in the scrappers now and they have liners front and rear as well as similarish sized wheels.
Getting some to fit the rear shouldn't be too difficult, there are plenty of Volvo 240's and 740's etc in the scrappers now and they have liners front and rear as well as similarish sized wheels.
Coppertop
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Bit of progress made front quarter now complete with repaired wing
It had gone under and over indicator repaired with weld on top section and fibre glassed bottom area. the indicator fell to bits the alloy coroded and had been previously held together with filler which didnt help it much. Collect replacements tomorrow
Headlamp bowls cleaned sealed and refitted only issue in the headlamps was the chrome bezzels had coroded (replacemets now fitted)
Front Quarter prepared in base coat of white.
Cleaned and repaired/ relaced switch panels all now working fine.
(Not cleaned dash area yet -working fine under the grot but steering lock and ignition both need relpacing.
The indicator stalks were rusty so relaced with new stalk to indicator got to find a light stalk to replace other side
Rear drivers wing is dead (collect replacement tommorow) but on the bright side the rear light was in good condition.
All rear drivers arch now welded undersealed and ready for new wing fitting still working on battery box with fine filling in progress
Passengers rear arch need to remove petrol tank before i go any further and turn car round in limited space of a new garage planners dont think of mending a car to be honest i cant fit my car in garage unless i stay sat in it.
The bonnet would be a difficult repair it has cracked where the stress point is as bonnet flexes so i think a replacemnt is needed but thats later.
slowly the car is becoming a car again
only the drivers door to sort after rear wing area is completed and the drivers side is complete when i get an outer sill.
hope to finish back drivers quarter over weekend - (as long as wife dont see what my easter plans are)
Work Continues
It had gone under and over indicator repaired with weld on top section and fibre glassed bottom area. the indicator fell to bits the alloy coroded and had been previously held together with filler which didnt help it much. Collect replacements tomorrow
Headlamp bowls cleaned sealed and refitted only issue in the headlamps was the chrome bezzels had coroded (replacemets now fitted)
Front Quarter prepared in base coat of white.
Cleaned and repaired/ relaced switch panels all now working fine.
(Not cleaned dash area yet -working fine under the grot but steering lock and ignition both need relpacing.
The indicator stalks were rusty so relaced with new stalk to indicator got to find a light stalk to replace other side
Rear drivers wing is dead (collect replacement tommorow) but on the bright side the rear light was in good condition.
All rear drivers arch now welded undersealed and ready for new wing fitting still working on battery box with fine filling in progress
Passengers rear arch need to remove petrol tank before i go any further and turn car round in limited space of a new garage planners dont think of mending a car to be honest i cant fit my car in garage unless i stay sat in it.
The bonnet would be a difficult repair it has cracked where the stress point is as bonnet flexes so i think a replacemnt is needed but thats later.
slowly the car is becoming a car again
only the drivers door to sort after rear wing area is completed and the drivers side is complete when i get an outer sill.
hope to finish back drivers quarter over weekend - (as long as wife dont see what my easter plans are)
Work Continues
Coppertop
New Member
my last project was a 3.0 ghia which i fitted a vinyl roof to . it was more difficult due to having to extend the gutter trims but looked the part on completion.
As my 2000 tc is progressing from rust to metal and red to white I am toying with doing a black vinyl roof when i get that far.
is there a supplier in uk where i can get vinyl roof material from or is it more practical to try and find a donor roof already with vinyl.
As my 2000 tc is progressing from rust to metal and red to white I am toying with doing a black vinyl roof when i get that far.
is there a supplier in uk where i can get vinyl roof material from or is it more practical to try and find a donor roof already with vinyl.
vaultsman
Well-Known Member
Hi Keith,
I've been following your project with interest...coming on great!
Check out >this thread< for a vinyl roof discussion.
Cheers,
I've been following your project with interest...coming on great!
Check out >this thread< for a vinyl roof discussion.
Cheers,
Coppertop
New Member
Progress update
Replacement rear wing prepared and fitted back drivers quarter completed
Started on door areas removed both doors and started again
Back door saveable 95% ok just a bit of rot at base of arch area stripped the door to base unit and rebuilt
Front door required replacement - replacement stripped door to base unit and rebuilt
Rear door shut arch only had metal left to where rubber was stuck on with rust. made new missing sections and welded into place
Rear jacking point outer side crumbles and underside of sill went through with a sharp bash of hammer
cut out rot and made supporting brackets and started refit, while in this area decided to plate inside areas for extra strength and place a jacking plate on underside of car (Work in progress)
Drivers door sill top rotted cut out and replaced with new metal
Made new seal/trim fittings gutters
Repainted all door shuts to white
Replacement rear bumper from Ian cleaned treaded and ready
Sure i have missed plenty of other things but work is progressing well after the jacking point i should be able to refit doors line them up and then fit replacement outer sills i have prepared Then repaint all drivers side interior metal work Drivers side then completed I think.
Replacement rear wing prepared and fitted back drivers quarter completed
Started on door areas removed both doors and started again
Back door saveable 95% ok just a bit of rot at base of arch area stripped the door to base unit and rebuilt
Front door required replacement - replacement stripped door to base unit and rebuilt
Rear door shut arch only had metal left to where rubber was stuck on with rust. made new missing sections and welded into place
Rear jacking point outer side crumbles and underside of sill went through with a sharp bash of hammer
cut out rot and made supporting brackets and started refit, while in this area decided to plate inside areas for extra strength and place a jacking plate on underside of car (Work in progress)
Drivers door sill top rotted cut out and replaced with new metal
Made new seal/trim fittings gutters
Repainted all door shuts to white
Replacement rear bumper from Ian cleaned treaded and ready
Sure i have missed plenty of other things but work is progressing well after the jacking point i should be able to refit doors line them up and then fit replacement outer sills i have prepared Then repaint all drivers side interior metal work Drivers side then completed I think.
Coppertop
New Member
Update on progress made
we have been working on the panels and sourcing parts to progress further, unfortuantley the project slowed down a fair bit has i had a knee replacement mid May
we know have the Bonnet ,Vinyl roof covering and a remanufactured rover badge for bonnet thanks to joseph / Ian
The last of the rot has been removed and replaced with new metal
All body panels required stripped sorted and primed/ painted in 2k Artic White - refit in progress
Paint Artic White 2k
All Interior now recoloured to buckskin - easy enough job and looks really well
Once petrol tank was replaced primed engine and she fired up first turn running rich but thats for later
still plenty of work to do but coming on
we have been working on the panels and sourcing parts to progress further, unfortuantley the project slowed down a fair bit has i had a knee replacement mid May
we know have the Bonnet ,Vinyl roof covering and a remanufactured rover badge for bonnet thanks to joseph / Ian
The last of the rot has been removed and replaced with new metal
All body panels required stripped sorted and primed/ painted in 2k Artic White - refit in progress
Paint Artic White 2k
All Interior now recoloured to buckskin - easy enough job and looks really well
Once petrol tank was replaced primed engine and she fired up first turn running rich but thats for later
still plenty of work to do but coming on
Coppertop
New Member
The seats were buckskin but i replaced the drivers back with a mango? tan coloured back before recolouring
I treated the front seats about 4 coats (with another coat over the colour change back )
the back seats only 3 coats needed
I didnt do the door cards as they cleaned up well and the colour match was excellent
the seats all do look really well and do not look like they have been recoloured all the old creases and vinyl sections accepted colour change with no problems
Before pictures of the seats
the seats were really grotty which is to be expected for the age and when cleaned up were faded and looked tierd
front seats recoloured
I bought the leather dye of ebay cost about 59.00 +P+P
item number: 250640497736
The dye comes in a 500ml bottle with a small sponge for application
Cheers
Keith
I treated the front seats about 4 coats (with another coat over the colour change back )
the back seats only 3 coats needed
I didnt do the door cards as they cleaned up well and the colour match was excellent
the seats all do look really well and do not look like they have been recoloured all the old creases and vinyl sections accepted colour change with no problems
Before pictures of the seats
the seats were really grotty which is to be expected for the age and when cleaned up were faded and looked tierd
front seats recoloured
I bought the leather dye of ebay cost about 59.00 +P+P
item number: 250640497736
The dye comes in a 500ml bottle with a small sponge for application
Cheers
Keith
Coppertop
New Member
Rear End rebuilt wings valance boot and bumper fitted
Wont be too long before body works completed only doors and 1 wing to spray with top coat of Artic White then we can takle the Interior ,brakes and bushes.
where is the best place to get a set of bushes
On looking the front ones are cracked and the back strut bushes seem to be non existant
Cheers
Keith
Wont be too long before body works completed only doors and 1 wing to spray with top coat of Artic White then we can takle the Interior ,brakes and bushes.
where is the best place to get a set of bushes
On looking the front ones are cracked and the back strut bushes seem to be non existant
Cheers
Keith
Coppertop
New Member
All panels now refitted with bumpers & badges ,trims,spots and fogs some final bits to do like fasten underside of sills and wings etc
Note the front number plate
I replaced the rear plate housing as the old one was starting to look tatty and the front plate looked plain so i used the old rear plate turned it upside down and got what i think is a nice plate holder
new carpet on order so work stops on interior refit just fitted rear seats
next step is to vinyl the roof and refit
I think the car is looking really well and the buisness
hope the rest of the restoration continues as well as the stages we have completed so far.
cheers
keith
Note the front number plate
I replaced the rear plate housing as the old one was starting to look tatty and the front plate looked plain so i used the old rear plate turned it upside down and got what i think is a nice plate holder
new carpet on order so work stops on interior refit just fitted rear seats
next step is to vinyl the roof and refit
I think the car is looking really well and the buisness
hope the rest of the restoration continues as well as the stages we have completed so far.
cheers
keith
Coppertop
New Member
Vinyl Top Fitted today may not be everybodies cup of tea but I think it goes well with the white ( same as one I had many years ago)
Top was quite easy to fit with it removed from car and it allowed me to get headlining back in so some more parts out of shed
Roof ariel was badly pitted and looked poor, so i fitted an aftermarket one not authentic but works fine and looks a lot better than the old original one
Before
After with a lot of work on base unit
Front spots wired in with thanks to members identifying wire pickup points.
Cant see to find where to fit switches for front spots and rear fogs at moment any suggestions or where i can find a pull switch that will match HRW switch with a different colour top
Cheers
Keith
Top was quite easy to fit with it removed from car and it allowed me to get headlining back in so some more parts out of shed
Roof ariel was badly pitted and looked poor, so i fitted an aftermarket one not authentic but works fine and looks a lot better than the old original one
Before
After with a lot of work on base unit
Front spots wired in with thanks to members identifying wire pickup points.
Cant see to find where to fit switches for front spots and rear fogs at moment any suggestions or where i can find a pull switch that will match HRW switch with a different colour top
Cheers
Keith
cdnp6
Member
Europspares.com - Several colors:
https://www.europaspares.com/ELECTRICAL ... _3512.html
Or:
Angloparts tool catalog page 77:
http://www.anglodesign.be/images_ap/Too ... e_2005.pdf
some selection, not colored but you may see one that will work.
https://www.europaspares.com/ELECTRICAL ... _3512.html
Or:
Angloparts tool catalog page 77:
http://www.anglodesign.be/images_ap/Too ... e_2005.pdf
some selection, not colored but you may see one that will work.