what oil do you put in your carbs

jamesdean2112

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Hello there

Just wondering what you all put in your carb dash pots. It says in my original book that i should use SAE 20 oil and fill it up up about an inch below the top. noticed mine is a fair bit lower than this. Had a look at oil, it all seems to be motorcycled based. Guessing my Castrol 20w50 is too thick

regards
James
 
3-in-1 is often SAE 20, as is ATF.
If you google around on the web you'll find many a row had broken out on this subject. It's all much of a muchness - the important thing is to ensure there is damping to prevent needle flutter, but it's not so much that the piston is really 'heavy' to lift.
The important thing to remember is that piston damping is controlled by the size of the billets on the damper stalk, NOT the viscosity of the oil. As such, the dampers will have an AUD number on the screw cap - so make sure they're the same. There wouldn't be an exactly specified damper if it was intended to control the damping with the oil grade, so don't mix and match and keep everything nice and consistent.

As far as the level of damping is concerned, remove the air filter elbows and feel how much resistance there is with your finger when lifting the piston (engine off of course!). It should be about the same resistance as pushing an empty mug along a table. Any less (ie, barely any discernible damping) may be a bit rattly, and any more (ie, you really have to force it) will artificially restrict your engine's responsiveness, and potentially cause lean running overall if doing a lot of throttle-on-throttle-off driving (ie piston is too slow to reach necessary height before dropping again when you back off the gas).
The acid test is to pull them both right up to the top of their travel and let them go at exactly the same time. Listen for the pistons hitting the bridge at exactly the same time. If they don't you need to take the dashpot off and thoroughly clean the piston and chamber with carb cleaner. The fall time is governed by the precision fit of the pistons displacing air at the same rate. So cleanliness is what makes them work properly, not introducing variables like different springs and damper oils.

Good luck!
Michael
 
I always used 20-50.

Don't now, as I have a weber, but for the first 20 odd years of owning P6s I always used 20-50.

Richard
 
redrover wrote,...
3-in-1 is often SAE 20, as is ATF.

Hi Michael,

I think you'll find that ATF is either a straight SAE 10 or a 10W grade oil. The recomended fluid within the workshop manual is a non multigrade SAE 20. The only difference between a straight oil and a multigrade oil is that the former will be rather less viscous at 100 degrees C.

Ron.
 
I always use engine oil, either 15w/40 or 20w/50. Incidentally, using too heavy and oil tends to cause rich rather than weak running, as the choke area is artificially restricted by the piston being held down, and all the suction is applied to the jet
 
I have always used 3 in 1 on SU carbed engines in the past - mainly because that's what my Dad always swore by !

Mark.
 
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