NLS underbonnet info label

nonote

nonote

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I wonder if anybody on the forum can help with my latest P6 conundrum regarding the under bonnet labels.

My car is a series 1.5 (series 2 with 4 fuses) 3500 auto with power steering, J plate 1971 and I’m looking for the appropriate information label (the big one) to suit the car but the exact one doesn’t seem to have been reprinted.

The labels had a subtle change sometime after mine was made in that the address at the bottom changed from The Rover Company ltd to BRITISH LEYLAND UK LTD, presumably after stocks with the old address ran out (some time 1971-72 ish).
I’m looking for a supplier of one with the “Rover” address on the bottom, the part number being 578509, info supplied from a mates K plate car. My parts catalogue lists this as NLS. All the labels on offer have the British Leyland address.

I know it’s being picky and I know we can’t expect our suppliers to come up with everything we want all the time but if anybody knows of a 578509 label supplier I’d be very grateful! Who knows, I may have opened up either a sales opportunity or a whole can of worms.
Steve.
 
what you might be able to do is buy one of the reproduction labels, take it to a label printer and tell them the edits that you need, and they can then print what you are after. A photo of an original might work as well.

We have the equipment where I work, but we are in the wine business not the label printing business, plus we are in the United States.
 
Classic Reproductions has reproduced virtually every variation of every sticker on the P6, including the ones with 'The Rover Company Solihull' on the bottom (same as the one on my car).
I have recently ordered an entire set for my car. The quality is comparable to the original - thick, sticky-backed vinyl with a high gloss finish. I have seen other reproductions, but these are on thinner vinyl and often have a grainier finish and some pixelation to the graphics. I can't comment on the quality of the JRW labels, but they look as though they might be supplied by Classic Reproductions.

You searched for rover p6 | Classic Reproductions
 
Thanks for the prompt replies, I’ve rechecked both the Wadhams and Classic Reproductions sites and both are nearly there, but of the two most appropriate labels one is without power steering and the other doesn’t have the Rover address. J. Radcliffe in USA, thanks for that info, I shall have a look around if anybody local can help but, as alluded to earlier, getting the right quality of vinyl could be an issue.

Made a call to Classic Reproductions and the very helpful lady explained that their stock (of the P6 labels) was made on 1960’s machinery which is no longer around and it’s likely that any further stock will not be to the same standard. I took it that they probably won’t be restocking once these have gone due to the lack of demand.
I would expect a custom made label printed on a modern machine would cost a small fortune due to the number of colours involved together with the complexity of the artwork. The end result would then be printed on whatever the company was using at the time – more than likely thin vinyl with a glossy finish.
I’m going to wait for a little while to see if any further contributions are made to the topic and if not I’ll decide which of the two nearly right options to take!

Steve
 
nonote said:
I would expect a custom made label printed on a modern machine would cost a small fortune due to the number of colours involved together with the complexity of the artwork.
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We use a labelling system at work, where we can design a label in up to 932 colours, use photographs, or just drag a picture of a customer designed label in either jpg. or pdf. format and than just print it out. We actually use self adhesive paper labels but the system will handle plastic ones. The only issue is that the ink is water based and not waterproof. The one I made above, is just covered with a clear plastic label and does look pretty much standard, apart from the wording of course.

I does raise an eyebrow or two at shows :)
 
quattro said:
We use a labelling system at work, where we can design a label in up to 932 colours, use photographs, or just drag a picture of a customer designed label in either jpg. or pdf. format and than just print it out. We actually use self adhesive paper labels but the system will handle plastic ones.
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Ooo.... now you've admitted to that, I may try and commission you! Classic Reproductions have been able to supply every sticker on my car except the 'Most Important' label. They have one suitable for the 3500, but the 2000 TC's label had a different compression ratio, different spark plug specification, and different part number. I have inquired about having them made, but they have advised that the costs would be prohibitive unless they can secure volume. I have seen the label listed for sale by one of the P6 parts suppliers, but with respect to their efforts to produce it, it looks like an inkjet printing on a self adhesive vinyl sticker. If you are able to produce some, I'd be glad to send you some beer money for your troubles together with the artwork....

Michael
 
The main issue is creating the artwork. Getting a decent print of it is minor in comparison (not belittling those hassles mind). It’s been on my list to do one (I’m a graphic designer) but I just haven’t got to it. But I will tell you a decent reproduction would take me something like 10 hours to create.

Yours
Vern
 
If you just need to add the correct text, get a good quality photo of the label and, using Photoshop (or similar program), remove the Leyland address and add the Rover address text using an appropriate font and size. The final photo can be used to produce the sticky label.
I can recommend a company called Diginate; Sticker Printing | Quality. Trust. Simple. Fast | Diginate. I used them to produce Wolfrace wheel centre labels and the service and quality is first class. They do vinyl sticky labels. There's no minimum order quantity either. (I have no connection with the company).

Peter
 
Hi Peter,
Went to the Diginate website and they do look promising, I reckon I'll need a few hours to get round the process but I'll see if I can send them a pic of the original and see if they can help.

Steve
 
Hi Peter
Just wondered if you kept a copy of the artwork that you used for the Diginate website? I'm sort of at the starting point of dealing with them and if I'm interpreting the site correctly all they need is a photograph of what I want in the appropriate format to be sent to them. If that's the case then I can use whatever package I can get hold of (and find my way around) to cut and paste stuff to suit. I have a nearly right (but scruffy) label (off a car) that would be my start point.
I have got this right or there more to it than this?

Steve
 
Just got my new label back from Diginate, many thanks for the information Peter. The chap who dealt with me was very helpful and I'm well pleased with both the label and the price.
I'm now looking and wondering when the recommended type of plugs changed, I suspect sometime after my car was built although I've not seen any reference to any specific dates and wether the labels would have been changed immediately.
Yet another thing is when the 4 or 5 star fuel changover happened. The workshop manual right from the series one cars gives a timing setting for both 4 and 5 star fuel so I wonder if somebody living, say, in the deep countryside away from 5 star suppliers could order their car from the factory set up for four star, and would the labelling reflect this?
At least these things stop me worrying about the big stuff!
 
Rover developed the Rover V8 (Buick 215) was to take full advantage of 5 star fuel, but it wasn't available everywhere so they had both timing settings from the very start. It started to disappear in the late 70's but was still available until recently at certain places - I used to pass one on the A5 north of Towcester but it's gone now.
 
nonote said:
Just got my new label back from Diginate, many thanks for the information Peter. The chap who dealt with me was very helpful and I'm well pleased with both the label and the price.
I'm now looking and wondering when the recommended type of plugs changed, I suspect sometime after my car was built although I've not seen any reference to any specific dates and wether the labels would have been changed immediately.
Yet another thing is when the 4 or 5 star fuel changover happened. The workshop manual right from the series one cars gives a timing setting for both 4 and 5 star fuel so I wonder if somebody living, say, in the deep countryside away from 5 star suppliers could order their car from the factory set up for four star, and would the labelling reflect this?
At least these things stop me worrying about the big stuff!
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I suspect all UK spec cars would be set up for 5 star , if you wanted to run 4 star you would ask the garage to retime it appropriately .
 
quattro said:
Rover developed the Rover V8 (Buick 215) was to take full advantage of 5 star fuel, but it wasn't available everywhere so they had both timing settings from the very start. It started to disappear in the late 70's but was still available until recently at certain places - I used to pass one on the A5 north of Towcester but it's gone now.
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Aral 102 octane works very nicely.... :)
 
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