MAD POM

Have you considered the LandRover TDV8 lump? It's designed for a bit more of a conventional layout than the Audi yet is still pretty compact.
 
Can you point me in the direction of some quality bare chassis assembly photos?

One of the main issues was the bulky transfer case arrangement on the old Land & Range Rovers, but I've not seen any of the later model gear.
 
Not seen a bare chassis shot but here's one on the production line showing the transfer box arrangement:

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Would think that to get round the transfer box issue you could go with the TDV8 from the Land Rover but mated to the Jag version of the 6HP26 or 6HP28 rather than attempting the 8HP70.

Either way you go I see the biggest hurdle probably being the electronics rather than getting the oily bits to fit.
 
The electrics don't phase me so much, much of the Audi's gear is on the engine and connects to the main loom, the can bus system makes connectivity pretty simple really, thankfully they're not made by Lucas. Interestingly the only part of the system that phases me is the bulb out warning system and deactivating the air bag system, or at least tricking the ECU into thinking they are still in place and in tact. The alternative will be to pull the warning lamps from the gauge cluster, as neither will prevent the engine from starting or cause to operate in limp mode; just throw fault codes.

One of the intelligent aspects of VAG group chassis sharing is they often share electrical components with the lesser equipped models, with many of their options defeat-able via the OBD port, fortunately the Touareg wasn't equipped with as many options as the A8 or Q7.

The beauty of having the whole car will be having all the systems in place.

I'm certainly under no illusion that it will be a simple transplant, but that to me makes it more appealing.

The biggest challenge initially will be determining whether it will all fit, if not plan B.
 
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A mate of mine, the previous owner, sent me a pic of the Lowver in her day. That's what they look like 4" lower than standard.
 
8) I like the Lowver! Great stance. Lovely rims too. Is that your car? You say "in her day" – does the car still exist? I haven't read from the beginning of this thread, sorry, is this the car you are thinking of transplanting other mechanicals into?
 
MADPOM said:

That looks really great to me Madpom. Was that just done with springs?
I'm going to get some custom lowering springs made up very soon and was wanting the front drop to be around 4" max..Is the back -4" aswell?
Did you experience any problems?
Thanks
JIm
 
Cheviot wheels, the same as those being worn by the red Rover for sale up in Tweed Heads. I spoke to a fellow recently who said that he had lowered a P6 by 4" many years ago. He said that it completely changed the way the car handled.

Apart from reducing the range of spring travel especially at the rear leading to a ride which I imagine is less than soft, there are speed humps everywhere these days, certainly in Australian cities.

Ron.
 
Is Cheviot an Australian brand? I like alloys which have 18 or 20 'spokes', like classic Alpina wheels. Lowver makes my car look like a highrider!
 
mrtask wrote,...
Is Cheviot an Australian brand?

I suspect so, they were quite popular back in the 1980s on Fords, Holdens, Japanese cars and on one Rover that lived in the same Sydney suburb as me at the time. I had a discussion with the owner at the time, and there was something which wasn't quite right, but I can't remember what it was. It however can't have been significant as when I last saw the Rover in 2007 (now owned by his son), it was still wearing those Cheviot wheels.

Ron.
 
mrtask said:
8) I like the Lowver! Great stance. Lovely rims too. Is that your car? You say "in her day" – does the car still exist? I haven't read from the beginning of this thread, sorry, is this the car you are thinking of transplanting other mechanicals into?

This is the car that will be getting a transplant of some sort, I am hoping for V8 TDI but if not, blown 1UZ will be the go.
 
corazon said:
MADPOM said:

That looks really great to me Madpom. Was that just done with springs?
I'm going to get some custom lowering springs made up very soon and was wanting the front drop to be around 4" max..Is the back -4" aswell?
Did you experience any problems?
Thanks
JIm

Hi Jim,

It was just done with lowered springs & Koni Classics. They are 4" front and back supplied by King Springs. The only problem was speed bumps, but if you took it one wheel at a time they were passable. Another challenge was a 2 poster hoist, you had to drive up to the hump in the floor, have two blokes lift the front guards as you rolled over it and then again to pop the post arms under the car.

I ultimately put it back up to 2.5" lower than standard after a run in with the law one day. The officer witnessed me taking a near right angled corner at what he suggested was really quick and gave me the choice of a speeding ticket or a date with a machinery inspector. I requested the speeding ticket but he gave me the date; the sod. The springs were tired. It rode much better at 2.5'' lower and handling wasn't adversely affected at the higher ride height so I was happy. It was actually legal at 4" lower, the lowest point on the car is the rear discs and they just cleared the required 100mm.

I used to regularly cruise with 3 passengers and never had any tyre rubbing on the guards.
 
SydneyRoverP6B said:
Cheviot wheels, the same as those being worn by the red Rover for sale up in Tweed Heads. I spoke to a fellow recently who said that he had lowered a P6 by 4" many years ago. He said that it completely changed the way the car handled.

Apart from reducing the range of spring travel especially at the rear leading to a ride which I imagine is less than soft, there are speed humps everywhere these days, certainly in Australian cities.

Ron.

Was his name Scott?
 
Is Cheviot an Australian brand?

Cheviot are an NZ brand, but haven't made wheels for years AFAIK http://www.cheviot.co.nz/
Very popular on Holdens and Ford Zephyrs back in the day, NZ and Oz have a free trade agreement; that's how so many NZ assembled P6's ended up in Oz too. Cheviot wheels were made in Neilson St. Onehunga, Auckland

GW
 
As I understand it, Cheviot wheels were bought out by ROH which was owned by one of the bigger wheel & tyre chains, I think Bob Jane T Marts.
 
MADPOM wrote,...
Was his name Scott?

I don't know. It was in the Sydney suburb of Penshurst. He would have been in his 60s I guess, walking with his wife. A comment was made that lead me to believe that they had lived fairly close by for quite some years. I was at a friend's place, we were out in the street and they walked past. The gent asked me,..is that your Rover? Yes I said. Fantastic car he replied. I lowered one by 4" years ago, totally changed the way it handled he added.

Ron.
 
SydneyRoverP6B said:
MADPOM wrote,...
Was his name Scott?

I don't know. It was in the Sydney suburb of Penshurst. He would have been in his 60s I guess, walking with his wife. A comment was made that lead me to believe that they had lived fairly close by for quite some years. I was at a friend's place, we were out in the street and they walked past. The gent asked me,..is that your Rover? Yes I said. Fantastic car he replied. I lowered one by 4" years ago, totally changed the way it handled he added.

Ron.

The handling capability of a standard ride height P6 is impressive, drop it on it's belly and one soon tests the limits of driving capability and the integrity of their kidneys.
 
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