Kickdown Cable adjustment?
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I'm still on the case Harvey, and getting a little bit closer, I think it's in the linkage, but my back went bang (not an unusual occurence when I try to do too much) and I'm having to leave it for a couple of days as I want to be fit enough to use the car, minus kickdown, this weekend. It does make a lovely noise without the airbox on, but now refitted for weekend use.
John.
John.
Rather than Hijack Rich's thread on Slepnir I have added a pic of my kickdown cable gearbox end nut which defied all spanners and adaptations.
I decided to use "Shock and Awe" tactics (well more tap and pray, or S##t or bust). I could not get a purchase on it as it was just off flat, and decided old school methods were required, a long thin punch and a 2lb hammer, because if you cannot fix something with hammer, you have an electrical problem, and this wasn't electrical
Success and once the nip was off it came out 1 flat at a time with a stubby, by the time I had got it out I was time for a little nap, so I'll fit the new, 1" shorter cable tomorrow......ish.
Many thanks to Harvey for advice and a shorter cable.
An inch might not be much to some but it might as well be a mile to others.
John.
I decided to use "Shock and Awe" tactics (well more tap and pray, or S##t or bust). I could not get a purchase on it as it was just off flat, and decided old school methods were required, a long thin punch and a 2lb hammer, because if you cannot fix something with hammer, you have an electrical problem, and this wasn't electrical
Success and once the nip was off it came out 1 flat at a time with a stubby, by the time I had got it out I was time for a little nap, so I'll fit the new, 1" shorter cable tomorrow......ish.
Many thanks to Harvey for advice and a shorter cable.
An inch might not be much to some but it might as well be a mile to others.
John.
303 gearbox with the correct valve block.
Set the cable adjustment while you still have the sump off.
The cable needs to be set so that the heel of the cam where it returns on to the valve (which is acting as the return stop) is still touching the valve, but it moves off that the moment the cable moves upwards. Too tight and the cam will be off the valve and the pressures will be too high, both at idle, and all though the range, too slack, and the pressures will be OK at idle, but will lag behind the throttle opening all the way through from idle upwards.
Just be careful to make sure that none of the muck on the outside of the box, ends up on the inside.
Set the cable adjustment while you still have the sump off.
The cable needs to be set so that the heel of the cam where it returns on to the valve (which is acting as the return stop) is still touching the valve, but it moves off that the moment the cable moves upwards. Too tight and the cam will be off the valve and the pressures will be too high, both at idle, and all though the range, too slack, and the pressures will be OK at idle, but will lag behind the throttle opening all the way through from idle upwards.
Just be careful to make sure that none of the muck on the outside of the box, ends up on the inside.
stina
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John said:Cheers Mike, I thought it was, but I didn't want to undo the screws and find half a dozen dentente springs and ball bearings whistle past my ear
John.
Nice one John , you've taken a picture of the filter and proceeded to ask if their is a filter
Have you started on the Christmas cheer early Joking aside , i wondered where and what the filter was , and it's on my to do list , so i'll watch with interest
Hi Stina,
I took a friend's Rover which has a BW65 like yours to have the transmission serviced just over 2 years ago. The transmission man told me that with the 65, there are two types of filter, one can be removed, cleaned and refitted, the other however if I remember correctly is in a sealed housing, so is removed and a new one fitted. He said we won't know which one is in the box until the pan comes off.
Ron.
I took a friend's Rover which has a BW65 like yours to have the transmission serviced just over 2 years ago. The transmission man told me that with the 65, there are two types of filter, one can be removed, cleaned and refitted, the other however if I remember correctly is in a sealed housing, so is removed and a new one fitted. He said we won't know which one is in the box until the pan comes off.
Ron.
harveyp6 wrote,...
Hi Harvey,
My memory tends to be pretty good most of the time and I can picture standing there beneath the Rover with this fellow as he was taking the pan off. It was more involved that removing the BW35 pan as he had to remove the dip stick/filler tube from where it resided in order to drop the pan. I don't know why he would tell me a load of rubbish, unless there is somehow a difference to the ones here in Australia?
Must say that when I asked him questions, even though he said that he had 25 odd years of experience, he didn't seem very sure of his answers or indeed in some cases didn't seem to know at all. Not very reassuring I thought at the time.
Ron.
P.S : This is NOT the gent who rebuilt my transmission in 2009. That fellow was totally switched on!
Hi Harvey,
My memory tends to be pretty good most of the time and I can picture standing there beneath the Rover with this fellow as he was taking the pan off. It was more involved that removing the BW35 pan as he had to remove the dip stick/filler tube from where it resided in order to drop the pan. I don't know why he would tell me a load of rubbish, unless there is somehow a difference to the ones here in Australia?
Must say that when I asked him questions, even though he said that he had 25 odd years of experience, he didn't seem very sure of his answers or indeed in some cases didn't seem to know at all. Not very reassuring I thought at the time.
Ron.
P.S : This is NOT the gent who rebuilt my transmission in 2009. That fellow was totally switched on!
AFAIK there's only one type of filter fitted to all BW65's.
This thread is about the BW35, and the pic of the filter in the recent posting is one fitted into a BW35, and is the late type, and is correct for the valve block as fitted to that particular box, because as it's the later type, it will only fit the later type valve block. There was a previous pic that actually showed the difference in the two valve block types. It's true that you won't know which filter type is fitted until the sump is removed in that case, but only with the BW35, not the BW65. The earlier screen filter will fit either type valve block, but is incorrect on the later one. The screen filter is easily cleaned, the later one can still be cleaned, it just takes a little more effort.
Was this transmission man the same one that told you that both bands in the BW65 were self adjusting? If so, forget everything he ever told you.
This thread is about the BW35, and the pic of the filter in the recent posting is one fitted into a BW35, and is the late type, and is correct for the valve block as fitted to that particular box, because as it's the later type, it will only fit the later type valve block. There was a previous pic that actually showed the difference in the two valve block types. It's true that you won't know which filter type is fitted until the sump is removed in that case, but only with the BW35, not the BW65. The earlier screen filter will fit either type valve block, but is incorrect on the later one. The screen filter is easily cleaned, the later one can still be cleaned, it just takes a little more effort.
Was this transmission man the same one that told you that both bands in the BW65 were self adjusting? If so, forget everything he ever told you.
harveyp6 wrote,...
He didn't touch the bands or check the downshft adjustment even though the filter and the floor of the pan were covered in friction material. He did say that the bands were self adjusting, but then the owner of this Rover had been told that also by more than one other transmission man over the years.
Ron.
He didn't touch the bands or check the downshft adjustment even though the filter and the floor of the pan were covered in friction material. He did say that the bands were self adjusting, but then the owner of this Rover had been told that also by more than one other transmission man over the years.
Ron.
harveyp6 wrote,...
That is very true sadly, but worse they charge like wounded bulls for sub standard work.
Ron.
That is very true sadly, but worse they charge like wounded bulls for sub standard work.
Ron.