Estoura,

An absolutely lovely car, but ridiculously dear, to my mind. At this rate, nobody normal will be able to afford P6s soon. :(
 
And you absolutely have to keep them garaged, otherwise the whole of the rear end dissolves into a puddle of rust as you watch....

The estate pod directs water directly into one or two of the P6's most crucial and well known rust traps..... Oh, and the side windows of the pod lodge in the boot drain channels of the base unit, so any water run off there is again nicely ponded.... I wonder why so few estate pods are still on their original cars....

Chris
 
From the ad, it does look nice. I know they are rare but it is a hefty asking price for any P6.

The ad says the rear seat is unique? Assume it maybe folds down?
 
I am pretty sure I saw this car up for sale at Shepton Mallet classic show earlier in the year!
IIRC,Price is now double the then asking price,but now its with a dealer!!
If anyone is interested its only 1/2hr from me!
 
I have an estoura and yes, the back seat folds down although the rear seat bases are the same as a saloon. The way of telling a genuine original estate is checking the vehicle type on the v5 log book. The genuine conversions had the v5 body type changed from "saloon" to "estate" when they were converted. Im glad to say that mine reads ESTATE. A saloon thats been chopped and a pod unit thrown on top will still read saloon on the v5.
 
badrover said:
Something peculiar going on here. It's listed on dvla as having a 2000cc engine??? Thoughts???
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I'm sure I took a picture of 'this' car 20 years ago in a local car park - & it seemed odd then as IIRC it was badged as a 2200! :?
 
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Well well. EMF68J was Mark Gray's estate circa 1998-2002-ish.

At that stage, as Mark bought it, it was a pod which had been put on a later 2200TC.

Mark sold it, still as a 2200TC, in circa 2003, it was fairly derelict.

I'd love to know what we're looking at here.
 
badrover said:
A saloon thats been chopped and a pod unit thrown on top
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I think 'thrown' is a little harsh. I seem to recall that some conversions have been done which are superior to the originals in every way. Properly welded & with proper drainage, the way they should have been built in the first place.

And from Nick's post it's possible that we're looking at one here, albeit one that's changed from a four-pot to a V8 with all the correct underbonnet shaping. Hmmm! :?
 
The Rovering Member said:
badrover said:
A saloon thats been chopped and a pod unit thrown on top
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I think 'thrown' is a little harsh. I seem to recall that some conversions have been done which are superior to the originals in every way. Properly welded & with proper drainage, the way they should have been built in the first place.

And from Nick's post it's possible that we're looking at one here, albeit one that's changed from a four-pot to a V8 with all the correct underbonnet shaping. Hmmm! :?
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If I remember correctly Mark's estate had a V8 log book (the original car was a V8), when he got it it was a 2200TC. It now seems to be a V8 again.

Whatever's been chopped to make this car may have been pre-October 1969 due to the badges on the bootlid.
 
sorry, "thrown" is a little harsh and the original pop riveting efforts were a little lashed together anyway! If you look carefully, the white car and the blue car have different bootlids anyway. The white one has a bootlid like the one on mine - flat all the way to the rear valence. The blue one looks to have been crafted from a P6 saloon bootlid - it has the kink above the reflector line, near the rear valance, just like the saloon. May be this is how some estates were? Also the blue car has a rounded rump below the window, on the line of the R O V E R letters, just like the saloon. The key/push button are indifferent places too. The white car has a wiper and early internal hinges too. Its all very intriguing - I'm confused!
 
For ANY car to be worth that kind of money,I would expect it to be the original,"albeit restored car",that was built by Estoura back in 1970!
And have the history to prove it!
Not one that may have had 3 shells in its life,ending up with what now is effectively a replica Estoura put together with correct Estoura parts.
The insurance,in the event of an accident,wouldnt be too happy to find that according to the DVLA it is a 2000,but it has a V8!
Its a very nice car considering what its been through in its life,but just a bit overpriced IMHO!!
And a few old DVLA registration issues do need sorting out!!
 
Pilkie said:
For ANY car to be worth that kind of money,I would expect it to be the original,"albeit restored car",that was built by Estoura back in 1970!
And have the history to prove it!
Not one that may have had 3 shells in its life,ending up with what now is effectively a replica Estoura put together with correct Estoura parts.
The insurance,in the event of an accident,wouldnt be too happy to find that according to the DVLA it is a 2000,but it has a V8!
Its a very nice car considering what its been through in its life,but just a bit overpriced IMHO!!
And a few old DVLA registration issues do need sorting out!!
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I can't work out why they just didn't retain the original ID (index plate) of the Three Thousand Five and put the pod on it. Robbing up the car of it's ID to put it on the logbook of a car that had a long and storied past doesn't make any sense to me.

UNLESS

Someone's got the DVLA history and established the car was originally a Corsica Blue S1 V8, and they've gone for a recreation of what the car once was. That would make sense.
 
It would Nick!
Maybe it was a late donor V8 shell,"non tax exempt",and it was modified at point of resto to look S1??
Its probable that the only original as built in 1970 Estoura parts of this car are the unique parts,so possibly the hatch,fuel tank,rear seat and pod assembly!
 
So there is another p6 model to be listed in the 3rd printing of James Taylors book, P6(b)ish Triggers Broom Special Classic Car Dealer Edition? Usually to be found with much prosaic cobblers to baffle and Impress.

It IS a nice looking car though, no doubt about that, and with possibly a very interesting history, but doubtful parentage, a sort of Fitzroy Rover?
 
I don't think there's much doubt that the car it is on now has always been an S1 V8! I can't see them having gone to the trouble of changing nice round dials and lit up switches back to the S1 style, and it's got soft back front seats.

Chris
 
chrisyork said:
I don't think there's much doubt that the car it is on now has always been an S1 V8! I can't see them having gone to the trouble of changing nice round dials and lit up switches back to the S1 style, and it's got soft back front seats.

Chris
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It's got Series 2 carbs on it though.....
 
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