1970 P6

B

bert4656

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Just fitted 15x7 Superlites. Still alot of work to do for a WOF. Can anyone tell me if my rover is a series 2 or P6B or something else, I noticed a few people mentioning these models, I'm a bit confused.
 
Hi Bert. You tease, those wheels are only just visible from that angle! Your car, which looks very nice, is a Series I P6B. B denotes Buick, the company from whom Rover aquired the aluminium V8 engine. Series II refers to the later 'facelifted' cars with the 'eggbox' plastic grille and 'V8' bulges in the bonnet, amongst other detail changes.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum!

Nice picture, although i think it could do with being a little smaller :)



Rich.
 
Hi Bert welcome aboard, yours is a P6B Series 1
The P6 is the model and the B denotes Buick engine V8. Lovely motor by the way!

PS what size tyres did you fit?

Graeme
 
Hi Bert and welcome to the forum

Further to what mrtask has said it's often very difficult to identify these cars from an exterior photograph as the vast majority of external panels and the interiors etc are interchangeable between models.

For me, the real identifier of a Series 1 over Series 2 is the location of the battery. In a Series 1 car it will be under the bonnet, whereas in a Series 2 car it will be in the boot.

Except the Series 1 P6B or "three thousand five" which also had its battery in the boot too :D

Dave
 
Thank you all for the info and comments, the battery is in the boot and the side badges say 3500, i fitted 205/60 R15 tyres, i had to follow a members intructions to grind away the inside rear gaurd area, i hated chopping up my rover but it cant be seen. some of my mates run my rover down but i think its the coolest car around, maybe some people find it ugly but i think it looks cool, i love the gothic church window shaped lights, the unique red color that illuminates into the indicator lenses at the rear, its just the coolest looking car in town. I have another pic but ill be taking more pics when the suns out. Rimms are from http://www.performancewheels.com.au Superlite 8 spoke platinum finish.
 
Just found this at J R Wadhams:

Note These dates refer to calender-year and not to the Rover model-year

1963 Rover 2000 introduced
1966 2000TC (twin-carburettor) and 2000 Automatic introduced
1967 Single-carburettor models renamed as 2000SC and 2000SC Automatic.
Federal 2000TC and 2000 Automatic models for USA.
1968 Three Thousand Five introduced with V8 engine and automatic transmission (known as P6B).
1969 Federal 3500S for USA, with automatic transmission. Panelcraft estate conversion available
1970 Major facelift for all models (popularly known as "Series 2" changes); Three Thousand Five renamed as 3500.
1971 3500s introduced with manual transmission.
Rover withdraws from US market.
1973 2200SC, 2200SC Automatic and 2200TC replace all 2000 models; Borg Warner type 65 replaces type 35 automatic on 3500; compression ratio of V8 engines lowered to suit 98-octane fuel; Denovo run-flat tyre option on V8 models.
1975 Special-edition 3500 VIP models introduced (77 built).
1976 End of Production

When you refer to series 1 is that the P6B?
 
Indeed you are right it is the coolest car!! hence i have had mine since 1987 and like it just the same as the day I bought it. Ther is something about series 1 cars that makes me one day want to own one has to be a V8 however, they got the styling just perfect, it doesnt date , it was unusual in its day and it still as timeless today as 40 to 50 years ago.

Graeme
 
yes and no
Series 1 is those cars with the grills the same as yours regardless of number of cylinders.

Here is the info for your car http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=eg9805

Ignore what wadhams says for your car as series 1 cars are most likely complete built imports to NZ so first rego may not reflect manufacture date also cars assembled in NZ dont seem to follow UK manufacture date, some interesrting info can be got from engine and chassis numbers.

Graeme
 
Thanks Graeme, your in NZ I noticed, the rover club just outside of hamilton has a dozen rovers on a farm just sitting there rotting (i was there 2005), hes got a barn full of auto boxes and engines, i havent had a good look, just grabbed a bw35 of him for 50 bucks, the rover clubs closed down but he still sells parts, hes into yank cars now. (maybe theres something there for you) Do you know if i can fit a borg warner 65 in my car? do you know if it will make it better/faster? :D
 
As far as I am aware the 65 box can go in and it is a better box but there are some changes to mounting hangers and some other details, Harvey on this forum hopefully will answer your question. Another better conversion is to fit a ZF 4HP22 box which is an overdrive 4 speed far better for your cruising RPM and also has a lock up in 4th for better fuel economy, search around the forum and you should find a fair amount of info on it.

there are a few things I want for my series II and foremost would be Sundym glass all round, another very worth while option to get is the touring kit that allows you to mount your spare on the boot, now is the time to get one before they become like hens teeth.

Graeme
 
Thanks Graeme, your in NZ I noticed, the rover club just outside of hamilton has a dozen rovers on a farm just sitting there rotting (i was there 2005), hes got a barn full of auto boxes and engines, i havent had a good look, just grabbed a bw35 of him for 50 bucks, the rover clubs closed down but he still sells parts, hes into yank cars now. (maybe theres something there for you) Do you know if i can fit a borg warner 65 in my car? do you know if it will make it better/faster?
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Hi Bert, welcome to the forum. Unfortunately, Rover Rob of the Waikato club sold his property in Ngaruawahia and gave up on Rovers to concentrate on Cadillacs. He now lives in Tuakau but no longer has any Rovers or parts as far as I know.
You can fit a BW65 but there is a bit of mucking about involved. You will need to use the mount and crossmember from the 65 and convert to cable shift. There may be other small alterations too. The 65 is a bit stronger but it won't make your car any better/quicker and I think parts are getting harder to find. If your BW35 works, then there is no real advantage to changing it.
Your chassis number prefix is 426*** which means UK assembled series 1 3500 (P6B) for export and would have been shipped to NZ complete when new. Between March '68 and August '70 there were 1866 cars made with this prefix, 1215 of those built in the '70 model year and only a portion of those would have come here.
Rovers were also assembled here from kits with a degree of local content, and occasionally you will come across a UK or Aussie market model that was privately imported. That's a fairly rare care you have there and we will all look forward to updates and more pics!
Al...
 
Thanks Al, interesting info, what a shame about Rover Bob, i was planning on visiting him with a parts list, i bought a BW35 overhauling kit and downloaded the BW35 mechanics overhauling book, I've never done this before and im not a mechanic but its working fine, it is leaking around the brake band unjustment nut, not too major, i must say the bushes wer hard to get in, i had to miss a few out in fear of damaging them. I got a look at rover bobs cadillac, the light blue one. 10 grand it cost to get in to NZ from texas. I wonder what happened to all his rovers, maybe the wreckers.
 
looking for rear disks, one is very thin, bad rust at the large bracket behind the disks attached to the diff, hopefully new thick discs with get my hand brake working as well. front and rear calipers need overhauling
 
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