1966? I dont think so!!

Rudiger Wicke said:
Ever asked for the chassis number of this "´66" car ?

Rudiger
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Yes and he wont talk to me!
Also if you look carefully you can see the bonnet doesn't seem to cover the slam panel,so is it likely to be a S1 with an S2 bonnet? but then its got the round dial dash! "NADA???"
God know what he was thinking when he put it together!! :? :? :?
 
pilkie said:
Rudiger Wicke said:
Ever asked for the chassis number of this "´66" car ?

Rudiger
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Yes and he wont talk to me!
Also if you look carefully you can see the bonnet doesn't seem to cover the slam panel,so is it likely to be a S1 with an S2 bonnet? but then its got the round dial dash! "NADA???"
God know what he was thinking when he put it together!! :? :? :?
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Aerial is NADA esque :?
 
having round dials doesn't necessarily make it S2, they could have been retro fitted.

Incidentally when I was working for my mate in the trade in the mid 70s we were offered a very tidy S2 estate with a
familiar No plate, upon talking to the owner he told us it was a S1 he had rebuilt with S2 parts including round dial dash.
After a couple of days we realized it was the car used in the brochure for estate cars. I wanted to buy it but it was
outside my budget, in the end it was bought by my mates cousin who later sold it to an American who exported it to
America. The biggest regret of my life not be able to raise the money.

I digress, Is this possibly a pre production prototype or just a wrong un?
 
It's grown four extra piston's if it is the same car then. The CC on the logbook must have been changed too. Just show's you've got to be careful, a car's ghost may come back to haunt you. :wink:
Though it looks as though it may have round dials in this pic too.
 
Oooh, that photo is a bit damming isn't it. So either the reg has been transfered to another car, (although it's nothing special) or it's a serious ringer.
 
webmaster said:
Oooh, that photo is a bit damming isn't it. So either the reg has been transfered to another car, (although it's nothing special) or it's a serious ringer.
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It hasn't been transferred as a DVLA check would have shown a later build date, not the '66 one it's still showing. Looks like someone has picked up an early series 2, possibly a scrapped car and using parts from the 2000, illegally turned it into a '66 one..
 
..and another P6 Ringer is found out. :wink:

As the car pool gets smaller it is easier to work out what is and is not what it should be.

Also cars now tend to be fairly well known and when one surfaces then someone somewhere will know something about it
...hence Rudigers picture of the CORRECT 1966 2000 auto for the registration.

Anyone fancy calling the local plod to check the 'interesting' car out?
It would look nicer with a 'Q' plate.......

One day I will put up a list of ALL the cars I know of that are running around will different identities to what they left the factory with.
 
Also cars now tend to be fairly well known and when one surfaces then someone somewhere will know something about it
...hence Rudigers picture of the CORRECT 1966 2000 auto for the registration.
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Except that the car in Rudiger's picture looks fairly suspect too! The bootlid is off a 1970 car, the heated rear window is off a 1969 on car and it does appear to have a series 2 dash in it. Looks like it's been a 'bitsa' for a long time.
 
The Rovering Member said:
What about the 2000/3500 conundrum though? The log book must have been changed as that would be glaringly obvious to a potential buyer.
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Only if he then contacts the DVLA to ask for the history.. and knows enough about the cars to realise that it's not just a re-engine job.
 
Oracle said:
Anyone fancy calling the local plod to check the 'interesting' car out?
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They're not interested unless it involves money :shock:

When I was looking for a car a couple of years ago I was checking on insurance costs etc as well. I put the reg no of a car I found into a well known insurance website to check on the premium and it came up with the details of a totally different car. I contacted DVLA and the police and they said they weren't interested.
 
Are we only Interested in a car if it has the correct engine/gearbox/axles etc....how long before we wont buy a car if it has the wrong type of light lense, or the wrong exhaust for that year??

Yes, the car looks a mess, but in the first photo it looks kinda nice, are we really all that predjudiced towards originality that no-one can be bothered to save the ones that have been messed with? With the P6 built as it is..and the restorations Ive seen on here, can it not be turned back into a really nice car, or is the fact that it has different wheels and a later dash consigned it to the scrapyard?

Im 23, Ive been a member on here since i was 14, when i bought my first P6. I dont post very often, instead prefering to "lurk" and pick up knowledge as and whenm i can. Ive just bought my 3rd P6, which i will be collecting this weekend. It is a S2, but has NADA bonnet and S1 front grill. Does this bother me?? Not in the slightest, because i love the marque, warts and all, not just the shiny low milage original never been messed with cars!

Not meaning to start anything...and i realise im probably going to get flamed for this, i just think theres a lot of negativity flying around for a car we all supposedly love!

Phil
 
Phil, it's not the modifications that are being called into question here (although they are hideous) It's the fact that the registration number can't possibly belong to that car, which is a bit of a legal issue. I realise that the owners may have had a good reason for changing plates but it does make the whole history of the car rather suspect which means that it is best used as parts. Or, you could swap the plates for something a bit more believable. :D
 
True i suppose, but what if the original base Unit was too rusty to save, so was swapped (along with whatever bits were left) onto a nice non-rusty one! Whats the legalitys of keeping the Reg?
 
Not sure of the laws in UK, but down here that would be decidedly illegal. Standard number plates are not transferreable. Not that it doesn't happen of course and it is really easy to do on pre '73 P6s. In the case of this one here, it is more likely that they had a fairly straight V8 on which the registration had lapsed, and a damaged/rusty early 2000 that hadn't and swapped the plates to avoid costly reregistration fees. They do seem to have informed the DVLA of the change in engine size though.
 
KiwiRover said:
Not sure of the laws in UK, but down here that would be decidedly illegal. Standard number plates are not transferreable. Not that it doesn't happen of course and it is really easy to do on pre '73 P6s. In the case of this one here, it is more likely that they had a fairly straight V8 on which the registration had lapsed, and a damaged/rusty early 2000 that hadn't and swapped the plates to avoid costly reregistration fees. They do seem to have informed the DVLA of the change in engine size though.
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It's pretty similar here I believe. I know that with Heritage re-shells, you can keep the original plates if you transpose the running gear etc across, but in this case it's clearly a series 2 shell with a V8 engine, so far more of a ringer than a resto job.

All,

I don't have a problem with messing around with cars, and have just sold Phil the car he describes above.. I'm just concerned that the guy is being evasive and has clearly modified the car yet is refusing to talk about it, and has probably not notified the DVLA of anything other than an engine change.

Not that I can really comment too much. I drove my 2000SC and 3500S around a certain commonwealth country for a couple of years with the same plates on as I was young and didn't want to pay two lots of road tax.. Oops ;)
 
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