1966? I dont think so!!

pilkie said:
What does the engine bay look like? a 2000's or a V8's??
Wot about the dash??

Somewhere in my 1000's of P6 pictures I will have an engine pic. and possibly dash.

From memory - it was a long time ago - the bay has handformed V8 cut outs in the inner wing similar to production ones and the dash was a strip affair.

The car did appear in an issue of P6 News a few years back now.
The article featured many pictures which I will have somewhere.

I seem to remember it was a hideous shade of lime green when found for rebuild....

You can see a lot of NADA styling cues on the car if you look closer....


andy king said:
hi pete i think i seen that car at lakes rally ,shap wells did the owner used to work at rover :?: :D

You're right Andy - the pics (above) were taken at the a Lakes Rally many years ago.

I have others somewhere showing a lot more detail - have to look them out.
 
What does the engine bay look like? a 2000's or a V8's??
Wot about the dash??
Dashboard is an early 2000 type, strip speedo, toggle switches for lights etc. I can't find a picture of the engine bay at the moment but IIRC it is also standard 2000.
 
Just found the article. P6 news Dec '99. Front inner wings are standard 2000 type, brake booster appears to be mounted on the opposite side and slightly further forward than the 2000.
Essentially, a 1966 2000 with a V8 stuffed in it. :D (Not a 1971 V8 with the rego from a 1966 2000)
 
Actually Oracle, there is one other '66 reg V8 still in circulation in the UK, not counting another possible down under. But it's a long story and all will be revealed at a racetrack near Rudiger later in the year.

Chris
 
KiwiRover said:
Just found the article. P6 news Dec '99. Front inner wings are standard 2000 type, brake booster appears to be mounted on the opposite side and slightly further forward than the 2000.
Essentially, a 1966 2000 with a V8 stuffed in it. :D (Not a 1971 V8 with the rego from a 1966 2000)

Exactly my point and why I asked,as its a 100% genuine prototype!!
 
chrisyork said:
Actually Oracle, there is one other '66 reg V8 still in circulation in the UK, not counting another possible down under. But it's a long story and all will be revealed at a racetrack near Rudiger later in the year.

Chris


The Traco Racers don't count Chris!
I said P6B (as in Buick) :wink:
The Traco has a slightly larger V8 in the bay....
Also they were not Factory Built in the accepted sense of the phrase.....

The UK one was in East Anglia somewhere last time I heard with a serious Rover Collector.
Ian Trapp and a few other people saw it a few years back, but he wanted serious money.

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Last I heard of the Aussie one it was a wreck (left in the dunes at a beach) and being rebuilt
however there was some disquiet about the way the rebuild was going.

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Just been reading a letter to P6 News in 1988 by the then current owner of JXC822D which says that there were 6 V8s built in '66 and 4 still survived.
JXC805D the racer that is now in Oz. Heavily modified.
JXC808D which became the red racer, still around.
JXC813D owned by a club member (in '88) and in need of restoration.
JXC815D an original 5 speed car, believed to have been scrapped in the mid '80s.
JXC817D used as a 50,000 mile test car for the US market, whereabouts unknown.
JXC822D The surviving prototype mentioned.
Bearing in mind that this was written 22 years ago, is JXC813D still around? And did 815 or 817 ever surface?
 
The vehicle details for JXC 813D are:

Date of Liability 01 11 1983
Date of First Registration 01 04 1966
Year of Manufacture Not Available
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3520CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour GREY


JXC 815D - Vehicle details could not be found
JXC 817D - Vehicle details could not be found
 
pilkie said:
Grim V8 said:
Nothing to say it's not an honest car where someone just kept an old number, transferred it for posterity onto their newer steed and Bob's your uncle.

Its recorded with the dvla as first registered 1966 and a 3500cc engine,so not the case here!

Shame, I was looking for a positive that obviously aint there :)
 
Oracle said:
The vehicle details for JXC 822D are:

Date of Liability 01 07 2010
Date of First Registration 29 07 1966
Year of Manufacture 1966
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3520CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour MAROON

Not with the original engine in at the moment though, I believe.. It was up for sale last year and currently has a TVR engine installed.
 
I've also seen at least one DiY conversion of an early 2000 shell with a V8. No real issue with that, it is how the factory built the early prototypes after all. In some ways it makes a better car because it isn't hampered by the wider V8 chassis rails and so can use 2000 front suspension. Downside is that the exhaust is even more of a challenge than normal.

Chris
 
hi,
JXC 822D was restored by a gentleman called john graham of which i have had the pleasure of meeting. i bought the body tilter from him that he used to turn the car over. the front chassis legs had been altered from the standard 4 cyl to accomodate things. when i came to use it for the standard V8 cars i had to alter the fixings as they were a couple of inches difference on the V8 production cars, so yes they were definately a unique car.

joseph
 
JXC822D was on eBay at least once last year - the owners - who were on the south coast of the UK, were moving it on. It was being used as a daily runner and was quite battle scarred. I'm not sure where it went on to. The engine in the car was not an original unit of any sort if I remember rightly

Cheers
Nick
 
From memory, it was running a non original engine - ex TVR Griffiths? But the original engine was sold with it. It looked tatty, but essentially sound.

Chris
 
chrisyork said:
I've also seen at least one DiY conversion of an early 2000 shell with a V8. No real issue with that, it is how the factory built the early prototypes after all. In some ways it makes a better car because it isn't hampered by the wider V8 chassis rails and so can use 2000 front suspension. Downside is that the exhaust is even more of a challenge than normal.

Chris

There was one for sale up in Scotland on e-bay ages ago,... but no takers iirc,

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KiwiRover said:
Just been reading a letter to P6 News in 1988 by the then current owner of JXC822D which says that there were 6 V8s built in '66 and 4 still survived.
JXC805D the racer that is now in Oz. Heavily modified.
JXC808D which became the red racer, still around.
JXC813D owned by a club member (in '88) and in need of restoration.
JXC815D an original 5 speed car, believed to have been scrapped in the mid '80s.
JXC817D used as a 50,000 mile test car for the US market, whereabouts unknown.
JXC822D The surviving prototype mentioned.
Bearing in mind that this was written 22 years ago, is JXC813D still around? And did 815 or 817 ever surface?


What happened to JXC 818D, it's not on the list :wink:

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chrisyork said:
I've also seen at least one DiY conversion of an early 2000 shell with a V8. No real issue with that, it is how the factory built the early prototypes after all. In some ways it makes a better car because it isn't hampered by the wider V8 chassis rails and so can use 2000 front suspension. Downside is that the exhaust is even more of a challenge than normal.

Chris

Was the starter in a different place then? I doubt there being any considerable difference in the positioning of the suspension pick up points between series 1/2 p6's, as I currently have a v8 fitted in my 2000 shell now, and the starter is a bit tight on the tie rod mount.
 
That picture of 818 is taken in Canada, so I wouldn't be entirely surprised if it stayed out there after testing.

Chris
 
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