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cooper1203

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I have just bought a p6 3500s the gearchange is rather sporadic and a little like stiring a bowl of porridge. it realy is pot luck what gear u get and if u can get it back out of said gear.

any help appreciated coop
 
ok I have finaly managed to get the rubber gator off and taken some pics

first one is of the gearstick in neutral with no pressure.



second is pulled towards the driver



last one is in reverse



many thanks coop
 

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Looks like the white spherical bush has disintegrated - item 571933. But unfasten the 3 bolts and withdraw the gearlever for a better look.
 
ok I have taken the gear lever out but I am now even more confused lol.

in this link http://www.rover-classics.co.uk/images/ ... ly_jpg.htm it shows item no. 591478 on the top of everything. in my car its below the rubber bit (item no. 371169) is this right?

I also seem to be missing the pin (item no. 540959) (see below pic)



there doesn't seem to be any wear at the bottom of the shaft



but is wear here



and here



finaly there doesn't seem to be a insert in the bit that the lever sits in (item no. 90622363)



hope these pics help
many thanks

coop

ps the manual said something about springs... there wernt any there although I did have to give the lever a slight tug to get it out.
 

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Oh its white grease...

It looks like you have a mismatch of parts, there shouldn't be any wear on the shaft above the acorn. It looks like the shaft is too long from the ball down. There are a number of different levers. The acorn should engage in the hole in the selector rod ( still on the car ) on the 3500s I think the acorn is steel and there should be an insert as you say. If there is no pin then the whole gearlever can spin which isn't right.

harvey will be along shortly to advise further
 
cooper1203 said:
in this link http://www.rover-classics.co.uk/images/ ... ly_jpg.htm it shows item no. 591478 on the top of everything. in my car its below the rubber bit (item no. 371169) is this right?
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The illustration you show is wrong. All the parts are correct, they're just shown in the wrong orientation.

The plate 591478 is the first thing that sits directly on to of the remote, then the bottom half of the spherical seat mounting, followed by the seat itself, then the top half.
 
cooper1203 said:
I also seem to be missing the pin (item no. 540959) (see below pic)
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If that pin is missing then the gearlever will spin inside the spherical seat. If it doesn't spin then the pin must be there, if it does you need to find and fit a pin.

That looks to be a very good condition gearlever.
 
pat180269 said:
on the 3500s I think the acorn is steel and there should be an insert as you say.
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Not so, only on the very late ones, so if you have a plastic acorn on the bottom of the gearlever, then there shouldn't be a bush in the selector rod. (Or provision for one. That would be a mismatch of parts).
 
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There will be wear marks there because that's the detent for reverse.
 
cooper1203 said:
ps the manual said something about springs... there wernt any there although I did have to give the lever a slight tug to get it out.
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There's only one spring at the gearlever end, the one under the chrome sleeve that holds the detent sleeve down.
 
so what is the issue.... is it just that it was put together in the wrong order and the pin is missing or is it as pat says and the lever is too long???

many thanks coop
 
cooper1203 said:
so what is the issue.... is it just that it was put together in the wrong order and the pin is missing or is it as pat says and the lever is too long???

many thanks coop
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If the pin isn't there, then that's a problem, and if it's all put together in the wrong order then that's a problem as well. I don't think the lever itself is a problem, so assemble it all correctly and then see if it's any better. If it is problem solved, if it isn't then either you take a chance on trying another lever, or you'll be looking at the bushes that hold the selector rod in the remote, and the selector striker lever, and to replace those the gearbox has to be dropped down so the remote can be removed. Always do the easy things first, and fitting the missing pin, and putting it all back together correctly is the easy bit.
 
ok thanks for the advice. im not that far from wins so I will go there Friday and get the bits will keep u all posted,

many thanks for all the responses
Coop
 
ok I went to wins today and got some goodies. I took in the gear lever and got him to go over it all. he said it was the right length and all the bits were there. he had never seen the plate I have b4 although it was in his parts catalogue. He thought it was the bushes on the remote. or the end piece of the linkage. so I bought 2 new bushes to try thinking I might as well change them while I am there. the end piece was expensive so I have left it unless I really need it.

many thanks
coop
 
harveyp6 said:
cooper1203 said:
he had never seen the plate I have b4 although it was in his parts catalogue.
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I'm surprised at that if you mean 591478 below


http://www.rover-classics.co.uk/images/ ... ly_jpg.htm

as every Series two manual car has one.
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that's the beasty. tomorrow I will put it all back together in the order of that link and see where we go from there.
he also said I didn't need part number 90622363 in ur other link earlier in the post as my gear lever has the rubber end not a metal end????

many thanks
coop
 
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