Rear seat belts

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JumboBeef

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Hi all,

As I'm a soon-to-be proud owner of a 1970 P6 3500, the first job I need to do within a day or two is to fit a pair of rear seat belts (for my two young children)

I have seached this forum and found a few threads...and now I'm confused! ??? Doesn't take a lot! :D

Will my P6-to-be have the mounting holes for two belts? (I'm not bothered about a centre lap belt). If so, what thread will these be and what will fit them?

Does anyone have any spare belts they would like to sell? Where could I get some?

Thanks in advance!
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Yes! The mounting holes are all in place. Under the parcel shelf at the ends, under the seat squab & soundproofing felt at the sides of the car (you'll have to remove the seat-backs too) & in the middle under the centre cushion. Search these areas & you'll find them. Threads are standard seat-belt type. Any kit will have them or you should get them with 2nd hand ones as well. Look on ebay for Securon universal-fit rear belts if you want retractable ones or any static type should do. I've got a static pair out of a Mini to go in our 2000 & Securon retractables in the 2200 & 3500. New, boxed retractables normally go for around £40 or so a pair, twice that if you buy from a shop. Statics only a few quid.
Retractables are a tight fit between the seat & the rear screen, I drilled out the smaller, offset holes at the sides of the mounting plate & used these to bolt them on but we still have to feed the belts back in by hand as the seat back is just close enough to stop them automatically retracting. No problem though.
 
Best rear seat belt conversion I've seen (and done) is get hold of some inertia reel rear belts from a Series II XJ Jaguar. You need to buy/fabricate some long bolts and spacers to get to fit but they are excellent, and look period.

Find a chap who breaks Jags and you're away :D

Cheers
Nick
 
I dont think the second one will fit...as the stalk is solid and may not fit between the rear seat unless you use a bracket to make it fit..the first one looks a better fit..
I have got seat belts fitted to mine asa well.they are made by securian as well.they have fabric bits from the floor to the stalk (if you get what i mean..)instead of the solid ones.
 
I have just fitted rear belts to my V8 that I am restoring.
They were obtained from a local scrapyard from a Peugeot 405 saloon.
These fit ok as the mechanism sits on the rear shelf in a 405, I just had to modify the bracket as its a little too long to sit in the P6.
Hope this helps.

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The P6 isn't listed on the box of the first one, so probably not & the second pair for the front have small solid stalks which would bolt to the side of the prop' tunnel, but the P6's mounting holes are on the top of the tunnel behind the seats so you need a pair with the long, flexible stalks. So again, probably not.
 
I found an ad in Practical Classics for belts from a company called Quickfit (not the tyre people) in Middlesex.

Anyone used them?

Also i have been told that MGBGT front inertia belts are the ones to use! They have an adjustable inertia thingy.
 
I got a pair of NOS inertia belts for £10 each a couple of years ago from a local factors - it's worth asking if they have anything as they often put old stock out of sight.

To fit them I needed a spacer to lift them above the seat back. I used a 4" length of 2" square steel tube (approx 1/4" thick), bolted this to the shelf and bolted the inertia mechanism to this. It fitted neatly and the load path in the event of a crash is largely unaffected.

The benefit if these belts is that they are adjustable for height, ie the over- shoulder strap height is adjustable to fit over childrens shoulders so a booster seat is not needed (don't know how the recent law changes apply though!).

Mike
 
The benefit if these belts is that they are adjustable for height, ie the over- shoulder strap height is adjustable to fit over childrens shoulders so a booster seat is not needed (don't know how the recent law changes apply though!).


u still need a booster seat for children under a certain height..(god i should know the height,with having 1 child)but there is a few loopholes for them..if the child is in the back of a car that doesnt have any blts fitted and the child is over 3 years old you dont need a booster seat or belt..(usually only cars pre 1984)and recovery motors dont need to have belts fitted in the back and same with commercial vehicles...BUT I dont think its a good idea to have any child in a vehicle without a belt on..
 
Worth mentioning to anyone thinking of retro-fitting belts to NEVER EVER, remove belts from a car that has suffered an impact. Old seatbelts are usually only good for one crash. Always fit new / unused belts never just ones that are £5 from a scrapyard wreck.
Mike
 
Child Seat Law Handy to know, luckily my youngest is over the minimum height, even though he is only 9 !

I agree with Mike on the crash damaged car belts, after all there's usually plenty of "death by rot" or "death by engine failure" cars available to choose from. New ones aren't overly expensive either.
 
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