Re: New Range Rover / Defender

[EccentricRichard]

Oh, and for anyone who doubts it, the Rangey is still utterly untouchable off-road. Not even a Defender, or anything from Jeep, can touch it, let alone anything German.

The new Range Rover is actually German. And it can be nixed off road fairly easy. All you have to do is bring an old Range Rover.

The Range Rover is as German as a Bentley Arnage - some small, insignificant bits. Still a British car. It's also much better off-road than an old Range Rover. Trust me, been there, done that. Helped out a local farmer towing people around in the snow and the subsequent monsoon... the 1990 Rangey had its backside spanked comprehensively by a 2007 TDV8...

 

[richarduk]

According to wikipedia, BMW sold Land Rover to Ford in 2000, probably because it was a profitable company and they could get a good price for it, before handing over the rest to the Pheonix plunderers....

I never knew it happened that late, I had assumed it happened when they were part of the BL debarcle. Maybe some late night reading me thinks.

 

[Junkman]

The Range Rover is as German as a Bentley Arnage - some small, insignificant bits. Still a British car. It's also much better off-road than an old Range Rover. Trust me, been there, done that. Helped out a local farmer towing people around in the snow and the subsequent monsoon... the 1990 Rangey had its backside spanked comprehensively by a 2007 TDV8...

From Wikipedia:

"BMW's 4x4 flagship

In 2002, the third-generation model was introduced which saw the model move further up-market. Initially planned and developed under BMW ownership under the project name L30, the new generation was planned as an AWD flagship accompaniment to the E38 7 Series saloon, sharing many components and systems (electronics, core power units etc.), and initially packaged to accommodate BMW's M62 V8 Engine power units as future range-topping models, to complement their own X5 model, a smaller, more sporting SUV. The manual transmission was dropped entirely, leaving only the automatic transmission. The E38 7 Series electronics system was being phased out during the development the third-generation model Range Rover and as a result was developed based on the electronics of the BMW E39 5-series. The entire in car entertainment system (Radio Function, Navigation System, Television and Telecommunications systems, and very flexile automotive computer bus system [5]) are identical with the BMW E39 5-series. As a result the third-generation model Range Rover can be easily upgraded with the newest BMW technologies.[6]"

BMW was German last time I checked.

And I was talking off road, not towing. When are we going off roading, you with yours, I with mine?

 

[EccentricRichard]

The Range Rover is as German as a Bentley Arnage - some small, insignificant bits. Still a British car. It's also much better off-road than an old Range Rover. Trust me, been there, done that. Helped out a local farmer towing people around in the snow and the subsequent monsoon... the 1990 Rangey had its backside spanked comprehensively by a 2007 TDV8...

From Wikipedia:

"BMW's 4x4 flagship

In 2002, the third-generation model was introduced which saw the model move further up-market. Initially planned and developed under BMW ownership under the project name L30, the new generation was planned as an AWD flagship accompaniment to the E38 7 Series saloon, sharing many components and systems (electronics, core power units etc.), and initially packaged to accommodate BMW's M62 V8 Engine power units as future range-topping models, to complement their own X5 model, a smaller, more sporting SUV. The manual transmission was dropped entirely, leaving only the automatic transmission. The E38 7 Series electronics system was being phased out during the development the third-generation model Range Rover and as a result was developed based on the electronics of the BMW E39 5-series. The entire in car entertainment system (Radio Function, Navigation System, Television and Telecommunications systems, and very flexile automotive computer bus system [5]) are identical with the BMW E39 5-series. As a result the third-generation model Range Rover can be easily upgraded with the newest BMW technologies.[6]"

BMW was German last time I checked.

And I was talking off road, not towing. When are we going off roading, you with yours, I with mine?

And if you believe that, you'll believe anything. Wikipedia is unreliable. The Range Rover is still British-designed (albeit under BMW ownership) and British-built, with British engines.

 

[EccentricRichard]

BMW had a spiteful streak a mile wide from what i can see.They effectively killed rover when they took the newly developed R30/Rover 55 away with them to become the new 1 series. They showed good business sense selling Rover and splitting it the way they did.

Rich.

The 1-series is nothing to do with any Rover. It's a cut-down 3-series with a hatch. The R30/55 was a FWD, transverse-engined affair: the 1 is longitudinally-engined and RWD, based on exactly the same platform and drivetrains as the 3-series. The only British thing about it are the four-cylinder engines (built at BMW's Hams Hall plant in Warks).

 

[webmaster]

I think he may be confused with the new Mini, which was largely designed by Rover