power steering for 4 cylinder
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hi,
yes there is a conversion, i do one, the guy who designed it has had it in his car for over 10 years now. first of all you will require the power steering box from a V8. secondly the brackets you need are made up by the said gentleman, 2 of one is the bottom pulley which has another welded onto it, to run the pump,the other fastens onto the top of the engine using four of the existing bolt holes around the engine. the pump is early SDI which fits to the left as you look into the car, is self contained with it's own reservoir. the high pressure hydraulic pipe i have made up, a longer fan belt and a longer engine stabiliser bolt which attaches to the new bracket and that's about it. hope all this helps
yes there is a conversion, i do one, the guy who designed it has had it in his car for over 10 years now. first of all you will require the power steering box from a V8. secondly the brackets you need are made up by the said gentleman, 2 of one is the bottom pulley which has another welded onto it, to run the pump,the other fastens onto the top of the engine using four of the existing bolt holes around the engine. the pump is early SDI which fits to the left as you look into the car, is self contained with it's own reservoir. the high pressure hydraulic pipe i have made up, a longer fan belt and a longer engine stabiliser bolt which attaches to the new bracket and that's about it. hope all this helps
Pete The Editor
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Pretty easy when you read it fast Ian!
PhilKendell
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I had mine done by Cliff at Turnpike Lane Motors, Hornsey, N. London at a cost of £375. Got the car back in 3 days and seems to be going fine.
Phil.
Phil.
Rubythursday
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Hi
I have just carried out the conversion using parts from Ian Wilson.
Information and pics of how to do it are on my website.
http://www.necpwa.demon.co.uk/gallery/steering.htm
I have just carried out the conversion using parts from Ian Wilson.
Information and pics of how to do it are on my website.
http://www.necpwa.demon.co.uk/gallery/steering.htm
webmaster
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Excellent information Tony, thanks for the link.
We'll have to try and get that mentioned in the P6 news.
How does it feel ? I've heard people say the normal rack gives better feel, but obviously the power assist is a big plus at parking speeds. I've got 2 stearing boxes with my latest project, so one could go in my 2.2
Richard
Edited By webmaster on Dec. 10 2003 at 23:38
We'll have to try and get that mentioned in the P6 news.
How does it feel ? I've heard people say the normal rack gives better feel, but obviously the power assist is a big plus at parking speeds. I've got 2 stearing boxes with my latest project, so one could go in my 2.2
Richard
Edited By webmaster on Dec. 10 2003 at 23:38
Rubythursday
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It feels fine, it is not overpowered like a P5. Really good at low speed. I guess to get better feel you could fit a smaller wheel.
OK - I admit it I am now warming to the idea of fitting power steering to my 2000sc despite the drain on it's already feeble power output.
I see this string of messages went cold in 2003. Has anyone done this conversion recently, does Ian still offer his kit, does anyone know of a garage that will do the conversion for me?
I must admit we use the car regularly so my preferred option would be to drop it off somewhere and get it done quickly rather than me spending a month of sundays in the garage.
Any info gratefully received.
Thanks
Barry
I see this string of messages went cold in 2003. Has anyone done this conversion recently, does Ian still offer his kit, does anyone know of a garage that will do the conversion for me?
I must admit we use the car regularly so my preferred option would be to drop it off somewhere and get it done quickly rather than me spending a month of sundays in the garage.
Any info gratefully received.
Thanks
Barry
Rubythursday
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Hi
Mine is still going strong, no regrets at all.
The link has changed and is now:
http://www.necpwa.org.uk/gallery/steering.htm
Mine is still going strong, no regrets at all.
The link has changed and is now:
http://www.necpwa.org.uk/gallery/steering.htm
Hi folks - thanks for your speedy response on this one.
Tony - great article. I have phoned Ian already. Looks like this will be a goer once I have pursuaded the missus that it is in her own interest to spend the money (or she'll end up with arms like Popeye from trying to park in Tesco!).
Mind you I'll have to sort out the logistics with Ian in Doncaster and us in Essex. Probably wait until March when the weather improves.
Cheers
Barry
Tony - great article. I have phoned Ian already. Looks like this will be a goer once I have pursuaded the missus that it is in her own interest to spend the money (or she'll end up with arms like Popeye from trying to park in Tesco!).
Mind you I'll have to sort out the logistics with Ian in Doncaster and us in Essex. Probably wait until March when the weather improves.
Cheers
Barry
The Rovering Member
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Paprika said:of course! the lift home I get from the pub is the bonus
Exactly! My better half drives 'em all, P4 & 5 too, depending on what's roadworthy at the time. The 2000 with the revolutions fitted is a bit of a heavy steerer but she manages well. The 2200TC is her normal steed though & I'm going to fit/have fitted PAS to that as she does like the steering on the P6B.
Best thing about it is that I don't have to go shopping anymore.
1970 2000 sc
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so how do you keep an eye on what she's spending?The Rovering Member said:Paprika said:of course! the lift home I get from the pub is the bonusExactly! My better half drives 'em all, P4 & 5 too, depending on what's roadworthy at the time. The 2000 with the revolutions fitted is a bit of a heavy steerer but she manages well. The 2200TC is her normal steed though & I'm going to fit/have fitted PAS to that as she does like the steering on the P6B.
Best thing about it is that I don't have to go shopping anymore.
all those shoes and things could buy bits for a rover. Infact what one of my exes spent on shoes could have bought rover
The Rovering Member
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She has an eye for attractive, but value for money shoes. ::
:Hi Jason - a good idea about making it a bit of a sight seeing expedition whilst Ian does the car as it's a long way oop North for us southerners!! Could be a nice early spring break.
Luckily I don't seem to have a problem with shoe fetishist partners like it appears some other club members do (!) but I am a bit worried about how she is going to react when I start looking for wider wheels once the steering is done!! (She did wince a bit when I told her the approx cost for the steering but I layed it on thick about how I was really thinking of her - but not sure I could use that arguement re getting different wheels - damn!!).
Any one got any good excuses they have used on their wives to justify replacing the wheels??
Incase this is my last msg before 2006 may I wish all our readers a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Cheers
Barry
Luckily I don't seem to have a problem with shoe fetishist partners like it appears some other club members do (!) but I am a bit worried about how she is going to react when I start looking for wider wheels once the steering is done!! (She did wince a bit when I told her the approx cost for the steering but I layed it on thick about how I was really thinking of her - but not sure I could use that arguement re getting different wheels - damn!!).
Any one got any good excuses they have used on their wives to justify replacing the wheels??
Incase this is my last msg before 2006 may I wish all our readers a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Cheers
Barry
Hi folks - just thought I would update you on how I got on.
"IanP6man" was unable to do the job until late in the year due to pressure of work but Tony Ryalls, the guy who designed the system and supplies the brackets, kindly stepped up and offered to do the job.
All I can say is - wow what a transformation. I have to admit I was getting a bit fed up with the car without power steering. Not only was it a pain parking in a car park etc but even down country lanes it exacerbated the feeling of being thrown around the car around bends as you wrestle with the steering wheel and slide around on the leather seats!
Now it's a doddle to park and cruising around the country hiways and byways is a real pleasure. Within the limits of the what the car is it seems to track perfectly around bends.
So really this is a big public thank you to Tony (sorry it's so belated Tony but it's always so hectic around here!!).
I would warn you that I'm not sure Tony would leap at doing many more of these conversions as he was toiling away on my car in sleet and snow and if that doesn't put someone off I don'y know what would! but if you're thinking about it is worth booking early with Ian!!
I would also like to say what a smashin' guy Tony is. A great character, very friendly and I feel he worked on my car as if it was his own - a real credit to the club.
Now the steering is sorted I was investigating getting nicer, wider, alloy wheels on the car. Having just read Chris York's tale of woe re the Jensen wheels I think I may scale down ideas and go for a nice set of alloys off a P6 (but not the Vitesse ones) as I really don't want to trim bits off the car or be restricted on how much I can put in the boot etc before it bottoms out.
If you are reading this Chris I would be really grateful if you could advise what size wheels the Jensen wheels are (6.5 J x 15?) and also the extreme width of the rim (ie out rim edge to outer rim edge) and distance of the mounting face to the rear outer edge (ie so I can calculate the ET). as we have had so much correspondence on the matter of oversized wheels I would like to get some finite dimensions. I know one guy managed to fit 7 inch wide Jeep wheels to his car and I have seen a picture of a Rover with the Jensen wheels so I cannot understand how yours appear to be an inch out. I'm gutted for you as they do look such great wheels.
Anyway hope you all have a lovely summer of sunny motoring!
Cheers, Barry
"IanP6man" was unable to do the job until late in the year due to pressure of work but Tony Ryalls, the guy who designed the system and supplies the brackets, kindly stepped up and offered to do the job.
All I can say is - wow what a transformation. I have to admit I was getting a bit fed up with the car without power steering. Not only was it a pain parking in a car park etc but even down country lanes it exacerbated the feeling of being thrown around the car around bends as you wrestle with the steering wheel and slide around on the leather seats!
Now it's a doddle to park and cruising around the country hiways and byways is a real pleasure. Within the limits of the what the car is it seems to track perfectly around bends.
So really this is a big public thank you to Tony (sorry it's so belated Tony but it's always so hectic around here!!).
I would warn you that I'm not sure Tony would leap at doing many more of these conversions as he was toiling away on my car in sleet and snow and if that doesn't put someone off I don'y know what would! but if you're thinking about it is worth booking early with Ian!!
I would also like to say what a smashin' guy Tony is. A great character, very friendly and I feel he worked on my car as if it was his own - a real credit to the club.
Now the steering is sorted I was investigating getting nicer, wider, alloy wheels on the car. Having just read Chris York's tale of woe re the Jensen wheels I think I may scale down ideas and go for a nice set of alloys off a P6 (but not the Vitesse ones) as I really don't want to trim bits off the car or be restricted on how much I can put in the boot etc before it bottoms out.
If you are reading this Chris I would be really grateful if you could advise what size wheels the Jensen wheels are (6.5 J x 15?) and also the extreme width of the rim (ie out rim edge to outer rim edge) and distance of the mounting face to the rear outer edge (ie so I can calculate the ET). as we have had so much correspondence on the matter of oversized wheels I would like to get some finite dimensions. I know one guy managed to fit 7 inch wide Jeep wheels to his car and I have seen a picture of a Rover with the Jensen wheels so I cannot understand how yours appear to be an inch out. I'm gutted for you as they do look such great wheels.
Anyway hope you all have a lovely summer of sunny motoring!
Cheers, Barry