Hi All - edited to reflect new found love of my P6!

[a15htn]

Hi everyone,

My name is Jim, and I am the immensely proud owner of a white 2000sc s2 called Lemmy the lemon. Bought on a whim, loads wrong, but loads more oh so right!o

Over the 180 mile journey I became incredibly fond of this car and love everything about in (With the exception of the moth eaten inner sill / floor combo)

I shall shortly be asking questions like "Is it ok to make a patch and weld that....... to that, instead of how it is coz I can't get to it"
So I apologise now
NEWS... The welding starts tomorrow. :roll:

Jim

 

[rockdemon]

Re: Hi All

Hello and welcome to this great forum :O)

Pictures please! Pictures are important on this site...


Rich

 

[Dave3066]

Re: Hi All

it turns out to have some hidden issues

Hi Jim

Welcome to the forum

They all have issues so don't feel isolated there

.......and there are no silly questions :wink:

.....apart from some of the ones I've asked............ :wink:

Dave

 

[GrimV8]

Re: Hi All

Welcome
Hope it works out ok and is fun on the way :wink:

 

[a15htn]

Re: Hi All

Hello and welcome to this great forum :O)

Pictures please! Pictures are important on this site...


Rich

You asked........ (She's a little shy, as her front valance is painted ala Dulux )

Warming to the rotten hulk now........ but will be asking a question re putting some metal in in a moment!!

Jim

 

[ajcb]

Re: Hi All

Hi and welcome

Now the good news is your car looks nice and you love driving it (they are great) but the bad news it seeems is that you have found something underneath that lovely exterior. The following is not meant to put you off but may help you with the sill problem and in finding anything else to do at the same time.

Good Luck

Tony Bunting

My buyers guide: Now the big thing is - the hidden rust potential. It depends what you are paying for the car. If you pay a lot you want all 4 wings off and on or be convinced by the seller with photos when they were last off for a restoration or at the worst ask the seller about it and let him convince you it is ok underneath the wings. Open each door and check underneath the door that the drain holes are clear and the bottom of the door is not rusty. Insist the outer sill on each side of the car is removed. It unscrews easily. Inspect the inner sill which is behind the outer one you have removed for rust as this is structural. Lift the 2 rear seat bases out and you will see into the structual inner sills from above. Check for rust here. Lift the front carpets and check for rust where the floor pans join the inner sill. Open the boot lid and shine a torch under the rear decker panel which is the piece of metal behid the rear window. Open the bonnet and check below the two front corners of the car near the lights. Have a look at Jonathan Wadham's site (you can find it via google). They are one of the P6 spares specialists and have a picture on their site of all the weldable spare bits they sell including the inner sill sections which I call inner sills and inner inner sills. Its the labour welding that costs not the metal bits if you have to get the inner sills done.

Oh also check the rear de-dion tube rubber gaiter is in good condition and not spplit by lookong under the rear of the car. And when you look under the rear decker panel check that water is not leaking in via the two nuts on the bolts (one each end) because the rubber washers have deteriorated or disappeared with age. A small leak here equals water seeping down behind the rubber boot lining. So whilst in the boot lift the boot carpet to check for sogns of water or rust, Also check the strip of metal along the lower outside edge of the boot at the rear of the boot. This is easily repaired but often missed if a small rust hole or two exists and lets water in. Finally check the gutters each side of the roof for pin holes or worse. If present water will have seeped in behind those 2 badged pieces behind the rear doors and found its way into the rear of the inner sills. A look each year will save the problem if it is not already there!

If all above is ok the rest probably is but there is never a guarantee. Plus Usual mechanical checks of course.

Now I hope I have not put you off. The beauty of the cars is everything unbolts and fixing problems if they have not gone too far is usually not a major problem if you can do it yourself or are prepared to pay.

I have seen a car brought back to life with what seemed like more new metal than old! All the panels were off and the chap had lovimgly welded for days to perfection. I wa amazed at what I saw and following the respray less importantly it looked like new outside as well. Hopefully someone has already done this to the one's you are looking at or maybe you have found one of the earlier cars that has never been affected by rust.

But remember if its rusty then water got in somehow so its no good just repairing or replacing inner or inner inner sills without checking above for example under the rear quarter panel where water can get in through a teeny hole in the seal and a little rust under there leaves a path to the inner sills under the rear seat or it will all come back again!

 

[a15htn]

Re: Hi All

........... I know...... I should have researched more before I bought it.....yes I'm a plank..... a poor one too...... however on with the tin snipping.......

The good (ish) news is that both inner & outer sills have been repaired very neatly in the past, just not sealed properly afterwards by the looks of it - which was a little foolish to say the least :roll:

Hopefully some time with a flap wheel, a welder and some seam sealer will sort those little niggles out.

My biggest worry is the inner sill area under the rear seats
I may have to dismantle the perfectly good outer to deal with the non existent inner

Jim

 

[Dave3066]

Re: Hi All

I may have to dismantle the perfectly good outer to deal with the non existent inner

Jim

If it's any consolation, the outer sill panel is held on with screws, as are all the external panels. No major dismantling required to get them off

Dave

 

[a15htn]

Re: Hi All

I may have to dismantle the perfectly good outer to deal with the non existent inner

Jim

If it's any consolation, the outer sill panel is held on with screws, as are all the external panels. No major dismantling required to get them off

Dave

Thanks for trying..... I mean I'll have to chop a lump out of the outer inner sill (the one behind the bolt on one) to get behind it for replacing the inside inner sill..... if that makes any sense at all the :roll:

But thanks for trying

Jim