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Coppertop

Coppertop

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Hi just a quick Hello form South Yorkshire

I have been looking for a good 2000 / 2200 tc for a while and am still looking

Mainly cause I know what car I want but havent found it yet.

A 2000/2200 TC in White & Automatic (so if any one has a decent one and dont want both arms and a leg -give me a mail)

Previously had loads of different cars in the past one that really sticks as a good one was the 1972 Rover I had as a young dad in the 80's.

Getting older now so cant do all what i used to do to the cars,just a few years ago rebuilt a scrapper of a Capri into a really good usable motor and then restored a 78 3.0 GHIA both were great projects . This time though I want to buy a nice motor to start with and improve as time goes on. Sue I will find what i want and will be tapping into the advice and knowledge of fellow mwmbers on the site.
 
Hello Coppertop, and welcome to this scrapyard.

I own a wonderful 2200 SC, while it's not on sale. Furthermore is quite far away from Yorkshire.

By the way, why are you looking so strictly for a TC white and automatic?

When I bought my car the engine was not important, much less the colour. Gearbox issue is more understandable, whilst personally I prefer manuals.
 
hi Shazzbat

i dont realy want a 3500 not so much the mpg more of a 2000/2200 is plently big enough cc - dont need the power / speed.
I dont like the strip clock (personal preference only) in the SC, I know i could convert it but i would like to stay original with model.
White - well debateable on this( again just personal choice) but first choice as I think the white is smart
Automatic - well thats due to old age & problems with knees I find it better driving an auto.

Keep been tempted with 3500 that come up for sale, but think i would rather change colour than engine size, unfortunatley not many auto tc cars have come up recently.
 
Hi coppertop,
Hope you find your grail, surely something will turn up, in the meantime hope you find the forum helpful, I have in the short time I have been using it, friendly advice never goes amiss I find. I've got a 2000SC and 2000TC, and although I would love a 3500 I can't justify it for everyday use (mine are daily drivers) they are nice engines and can live with modern traffic although you won't be setting any land speed records, but very usable all the same.
Anyway good luck and hope you're not freezing your sprockets off in your part of the country.
 
Hi Coppertop, you may have a couple of issues with your dream car. All 4 cyl automatics were single carb and all single carb cars had the strip speedo. All TCs were manual, series 2 TCs had the round dials.
You can't really fit an auto to a manual car (Different trans tunnel) but you can fit a TC motor to an auto. You could fit the round dial dash to an SC but would require either a complete wiring loom swap or a lot of cutting and joining of wires behind the speedo.
Series 2 V8s all had the round dials however, but as you say, fuel costs are an issue.
I fitted a 2200TC motor to my 2000 auto and it made a massive improvement to the performance and driveability.
Best of luck with your search!
 
Hi KiwiRover

Thanks for info, thats probably why no tc autos have been coming up for sale

So sounds like auto option is a none starter unless I go to 3500 model

Cheers again
 
not too much of an issue re fuel consumption, the 3500 when tuned lean and with a few mods does give very very good fuel economy on long trips and quite passable economy on town running, have started a thread in the lounge section re MPG.

Graeme
 
Welcome aboard Coppertop

Nice to see another local joining the fraternity.

Richard
 
Personally I completely agree with your specification of 2200TC Auto. As Kiwi Rover says, the question is how to achieve it! Fortunately for you, four cylinder cars do not make huge money, even in very good condition. My suggestion therefore, would be to buy the very best, white, 2200TC you can find, plus a completely shot 2000 or 2200 auto. Find somebody not too far from you - my suggestions would be Ian at Rover-Classics near Doncaster, or JP Restorations in Derbyshire (contact detail for both in the links section of the P6ROC website) and get them to scrap the Auto, in the process liberating the bits (including transmission tunnel and large chunk of floorpan) you need to convert the manual TC to auto. Then fit to manual car and voila!

So a bit of the logic behind this. First off you really do want to sart with a 2200TC. The 2200's have the V8 style differential and front diff cross member which is much better than the 2000 version. The 2200TC alone also has a different steering idler support casting which lets it use a cable throttle which is much better. Were you to find you were happy with the manual box (it is a flexible engine so shouldn't need to change gear as often as a modern car) the 2200 manual box is far better than that fitted to earlier cars. The 2200TC engine is also by far the best of the four cylinders. It has bigger valves than the 2000TC and a lower compression ratio so that you can run on normal fuel. If you were to undertake the conversion you need to start with a TC because of the difficulty swapping the dashboard instruments and also all the switches (TC's have the wonderful green illuminated ones, SC's the drab S1 version). Of course it can be done but the time element is going to make it much cheaper to start from a TC and swap the floors than to start with an SC Auto and swap the dash.

Finally, get the oldest 2200TC you can find. On no account get a very late one with the more garish colours because it will have been through the SD1 paint shop. Even if you can't find any rust on one of those, I guarantee it is lurking somewhere and will emerge in very short order! So ideally M reg or just into N.

Give people a ring and have a chat about likely costs for the conversion to get a feel for what I've talked about. After all, buying a 35 year old car you are almost certain to need them for something, so you might as well get to know them now!

Chris
 
Chris is on the money about a 2200TC - there's just so few available now. A rare bird - and there isn't too much strenuous gearchanging needed.

I've owned and run 2200 autos for years and love them to bits - certainly a stronger and more motorway friendly car than a 2000 auto.

Ironically I sold a very very nice white 2000 automatic in November with red leather inside. White P6's are plentiful - Mark Gray has in the past had to ration the amount of white cars for the NEC as there were too many being put forward!

Good luck and welcome to the forum

Cheers
 
chrisyork said:
Finally, get the oldest 2200TC you can find. On no account get a very late one with the more garish colours because it will have been through the SD1 paint shop. Even if you can't find any rust on one of those, I guarantee it is lurking somewhere and will emerge in very short order! So ideally M reg or just into N.

Chris
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Chris the SD1 paint plant botch up didn't start until October 1975, so some 'P' reg P6's are in the 'better buy' bracket as well.

And most surviving late cars have had major paintwork done. The stuff falls off!!
 
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