Fast and Loud...

Whitewash

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does anyone watch this program?

I love american cars but im truely amazed at this program,

it appears to revolve around the idea that they pump load of cash into a car by doing it up and then send it to auction with no reserve to lose alot of money! (11k loss on one car this week)

i still keep watching though, although air ride and matt black paint make me want to rip my eyes out! :roll:
 
Yes, it's sad when the Reality Program genre starts to reach the bottom
of the barrel and they scrape up such unfortunates.
 
I quite liked it when I saw a few episodes last year as there are some interesting cars featured.

It's waaay better than C****** C** R*****.
 
I've watched a few of these programmes and wondered too about how they often suffer a loss on a car (not even taking into account what they may have spent on parts and time). However, at least a couple of ideas come to mind:-

1, They are probably getting a good few quid off the production company making the program (it's good business for the production company as it's fairly cheap/easy TV with a reasonable market for distributing around the world as everybody likes cars). So, they are possibly making a net profit? Would they keep doing if they weren't?

2. Sometimes you see cars not selling at auction because they don't meet a high reserve. However, after the auction what's to stop one of the bidders doing a private off-screen deal with the seller? Consider the purely hypothetical scenario where a car is being auctioned with a reserve of $200,000. If someone bids this. They shall have to pay $200,000 plus the auction's commission (say this is 10%). So, the buyer has to cough up $220,000. As the sale has all been above board it will also have to go through the buyer's/seller's/auction's business accounts too. So, no hiding the fact from Mr Tax Man that $220,000 has just changed hands. Well, let's say the car doesn't reach the $200,000 reserve at auction. However, a few weeks later, one of the bidders, buys the car from the seller for $200,000 - he has just saved himself a whole lot of money ($20,000), the seller gets what he was looking for and that's before you even start to look at any creative accounting that might take place for tax purposes (e.g. buyer paying with suitcase full of $200,000 cash and seller putting the sale through his books as $100,000). Gosh, darn it, made a loss again! :LOL:
 
Fast 'n' Loud on Discovery Turbo again last night. Generally enjoyable but a couple of things that are frowned upon here:

i) cutting a spring to lower the ride height rather than procuring a proper one
ii) liberal use of easy-start to keep a Corvette running once started

However, I do like the fact the most things are V8s. Which is nice.
 
Have you seen Graveyard Carz yet? It is about a really obnoxious bloke who everyone dislikes restoring classic American muscle cars that have been completely written off, and then finding out the whole history of the car. He will not use anything unless it is factory original. The main problem with the program is that it is more about him than any car restoration they might be doing!

PS I like fast and Loud most of all the American programs but I don't know why. (the program with the three really fat ex mafia Americans running a car lot was a close second. Can't remember what it was called at the moment) . Maybe I want a job like that!!
 
No question that I have more invested in time and money than I could ever get back by selling my Rover. So it must be for some other reason (especially unkown to my wife) that I continue with this.
 
OrganDoctor said:
No question that I have more invested in time and money than I could ever get back by selling my Rover. So it must be for some other reason (especially unkown to my wife) that I continue with this.

yes but we do it because we are enthusiasts not trying to run a business out of it.
 
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