BW65 Selector Indicator

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tvr_v8

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Hi,
Just looking to confirm if the BW65 selector should have any visible gear indicator beyond the shifter itself lining up beside the selected gear in the shift gate?

On mine there is a clear plastic section between the selector and the P R N D2 D1 L indications which looks like it may be for some sort of selector arrow or marking, but not sure how this would work with the rest of the gear selector mechanism and any such parts are missing. It looks slightly unusual to have a clear plastic slot if there is not meant to be anything behind it other than the metal mechanism, although i suppose it could just be to allow the illumination through.

Main reason i ask is that my selector linkage looks like it has been bodged up in the past so i am not sure what parts are missing in there. It didn't have the locating pin that fits through the plastic bush for example so there was a lot of play in the selector & i've had to piece it back together again.

Cheers,

Al
 
I haven't looked at our 65 shift for a while but the P6 shifter is the same as the P5's AFAIK so yes, there should be a pointer. There's a curved metal plate around the shift lever that moves up & down with it & the plate has a small arrow head stamped into it which is visible through the clear section. All I can assume is that your entire plate is missing, which seems odd.
 
You've got the wrong selector plate for a start. On later cars like yours the selector should be P R N D 2 1.
 
your configuration is for a BW35
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Yes, but only a very early one. Parts catalogue says only chassis suffix 'A' on the V8s. James Taylor says they changed for the 1970 model year so all series 2s should have the D 2 1 type.
Just had a look through my parts stash which revealed two different types of selector mechanisms. One has a sliding metal plate at the base of the gearlever with a small arrow on it, the other has a couple of black brushes on either side of the gear lever and no position indicator which i think is that later type and correct for your car.
Also, the later type of selector plate doesn't have a viewing window, it's just black with illuminated lettering.
 
Ahah, now that makes sense, the indicator plate doesn't fit in the central console so that would make perfect sense that it is actually the wrong one....

Mine's a 76 NZ CKD car and is 100% certainly a BW65 so would I be right in saying I should actually have the following?


- brushes around the shifter (which I have)
- a P R N D 2 1 shifter (which I have not)
- no indicator arrow (also not present)
- no clear section on the plate (which I do have)

Will post pics shortly for easy visual reference.... :)

Cheers,

Al
 
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Hi, I see the centre console is truncated and no ashtray is that normal for Antipodean
cars or has someone been at it? Colin
 
Ahah, now that makes sense, the indicator plate doesn't fit in the central console so that would make perfect sense that it is actually the wrong one....

Mine's a 76 NZ CKD car and is 100% certainly a BW65 so would I be right in saying I should actually have the following?


- brushes around the shifter (which I have)
- a P R N D 2 1 shifter (which I have not)
- no indicator arrow (also not present)
- no clear section on the plate (which I do have)
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That is correct. All you need to change is the plastic plate. Second hand ones are usually broken but I believe you can get new ones from Scotts.



Hi, I see the centre console is truncated and no ashtray is that normal for Antipodean
cars or has someone been at it? Colin
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It's been chopped for the aftermarket aircon installation which was quite common in Aussie cars.
 
There was never an indicator arrow as part of the selector plate. The position of the gear lever will tend to line up with the correct position as indicated on the plate.

Tvr_v8,..the front ash tray is not normally removed, rather I suspect that at some point prior to your ownership, the front section of the tunnel cover with surrounds the ash tray has been broken off. You can see two small screw holes in the plastic section beneath your radio, and this would have allowed the front section of the tunnel cover to attach here. The tunnel covers in this area depending on the air conditioning unit are often modified to allow fitment.

Ron.
 
The Rovering Member wrote,...
No arrow at all? Maybe not on the BW65 (I'll have to check our ' 72 car, think that'a a 35),
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Hello RM,

Not on the BW35 equipped P6B either.

On the Humber Super Snipe that my father owned when I was a boy, there was an indicator which accompanied the gear that you were in. The BW35 in the Humber was operated via a column shift, so the little window with indicator was mounted upon the steering column.

I know that the P5B has the selector on the transmission tunnel in the same style as the P6B, but does the P5 also or is it a column shift too? I have a suspicion it is the latter... :?

Ron.
 
There was never an indicator arrow as part of the selector plate. The position of the gear lever will tend to line up with the correct position as indicated on the plate.
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Not true. As I said earlier, cars with the D2 D1 L selector had the indicator arrow. This only applies to pre 1970 cars (possibly even earlier.)
 
Thanks guys, makes sense, will grab a new one from Scotts in that case i think.

The tunnel cover is indeed snapped at the end where it joins the radio panel, i've got the front ashtray and the shattered plastic sections that were in the glovebox when i bought the car so I'll either see if they can be rejoined at some stage or be on the lookout for a replacement tunnel cover more likely.

Cheers,

Al
 
KiwiRover wrote,...
Not true. As I said earlier, cars with the D2 D1 L selector had the indicator arrow. This only applies to pre 1970 cars (possibly even earlier.)
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Hello KR,

Well I never,... :? Next time I have a squizz at an early series 1 I'll have to be on the look out.

Is the indicator arrow and what ever actuates it covered in the parts book? The plate shown on page 12-15 is indeed the D2 D1 L cover, but I can't see anything resembling an arrow. Is it shown?

Ron.
 
It may depend on which parts book you have Ron. It is certainly visible in mine. Here is what you need to make it all clearer. Early on the top, later one below.
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Very useful, thanks. Alas Scotts didn't have any replacements when i dropped in there today so I'll need to see if i can find one in good condition elsewhere.

Is there any size difference between the two styles? From the pic it looks like the later one is very marginally smaller but it could just be an illusion of the shot.

Thanks,

Al
 
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