Beautiful 1964 car

This is Terry Dyke's old car, it momentarily appeared on eBay about for around £500, without an MOT, six months ago.

I believe it's had some major work, there were rust issues with it a while ago.

Cheers
Nick
 
I went to look at this Copperleaf car. It Looked beautiful, glistening in the sunshine....and with original carpets in good order I believed the mileage was genuine. I then put on my boiler suit and got down on the ground and looked underneath....Oh dear..... The outer sills that you see, as you know are actually covers that are bolted on to the base unitl sills beneath. On this car these covers had been very badly welded on, warping at the bottom, so you couldn't remove them. Underneath everything had been covered in thick underseal, and the base unit sill were very ripply and uneven. I could flex the bottom in with my finger by 1cm on one side(bad), and if you tapped the sections you could hear the loose rust flakes inside. Took out the back seat squabs and saucer sized rust holes were evident with plates tacked on underneath, again smothered in underseal. No attempt to actually cut out the rust in there, which was moving well forward, had been made. I could pull out more rust by hand........ There were some small holes right through on one of the D posts. Time to walk away.....

How much does it cost roughly to correctly completely replace/ repair the sill structure on one side or a P6?
 
SirD66 said:
How much does it cost roughly to correctly completely replace/ repair the sill structure on one side or a P6?

About £50-£100 in bits if you do it yourself and already have the equipment or about £2000 at a specialist.

I suspect Gothydudes old car would be a much more sound purchase if that's the case.
 
That's sad isn't it. We were aware there was a corrosion problem - it was visible on the original listing. Sold for £2550 :(
 
Just goes to show how dangerous a P6 can be, that one looked fantastic in the photos, you can understand somebody paying that based on the pics.

Let that be a lesson to us all - "never buy without seeing it in the flesh !"
 
As I live not too far from this copperleaf car , and have been considering purchase of my first P6 , I too, went to see this car. The respray had the patina of an older paint job, generally very nice, although there were a couple of areas which would need attention ; 1) on the offside rear wing; 2) on the offside edge of the front bonnet. So that was not so much a big concern. The interior was very nice indeed, retrimmed seats, newish carpets, very smart.

I looked at various areas , which I have been told to be wary of with this model , notably, under mat to inspect boot area, under back seat, removing soundproofing, under rear scuttle panel on rear window, all looked reasonably sound. Although I was very concious of the very recent thick shiny underseal throughout the underside of the car. (Hmm?). I was more concerned with the fact the engine would not tick over properly was the choke was pushed in after a warm up, and the exhaust note seemed to be weaker than I anticipated. Could be "set-up" or worse, low compressions.

What's raised alarm bells for me now, is the fact I've missed these body-structure findings as described on this post. Thereorectically, I could buy a car looks very nice, full 12 months MOT etc; yet in my naivety towards the model still find the car would need anywhere up up four figure sums to correct , areas which your average MOT "bod" would never inspect. And yet I potentially still could have paid a decent preminium based on its general condition in the first place.

I have great admiration for these cars, still after owning Italian cars for the last 29 years, yet having looked at a handful of cars, I'm beginning to have my doubts on finding a pleasing example.
 
There are good examples out there. You just have to go in with your eyes open. Its not always obvious but on a p6 a seller of a good example will have no qualms about showing the car with the outer sill covers off which for me now would be the acid test...
 
If you are looking at a car, and are unsure, it is always worth asking on the forum, or contacting one of the clubs, and you should find somebody willing to go and have a look with you.
 
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