Alfa Engine

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You'll like this, I've recently aquired a 2001 alfa 156 with a seized engine, with the intention of fixing it to sell. Anyway I managed to remove the engine under-tray today and found this lot...

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Lets just say I think the engines beyond repair... and with just 61k on the clock.
 
Be interested to find out the cause . Lack of oil ?
I suppose you'll find a new lump in a breakers . Has it got Selespeed transmission ?
 
Yes apparently "it used quite a bit of oil and I topped it up when the light came on", which means he topped it up when it ran dry, which apparently on these engines is basically instant death. Looks like no.3 big end started knocking (sounded like it the night before it blew) and eventually let go at about 80 on the m62, of course rather than stop straight away he kept his foot down to get to the next junction, "sounded like the exhaust had dropped off", which was the sound of half a conrod, most of a piston and several chunks of block bouncing down the M62.

Unfortunately its quite common on these, which means good 2nd hand engines change hands for > £500 and recons are £1000+ :(

Interestingly the log book says its a selespeed, but it's got a standard 5 speed box in it, and no selespeed badge on the back, so I'm not sure if it's a mistake on the log book, or it's been changed at some point.




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DId he mean the oil pressure light or some level warning light ?
I'm amazed how few drivers of new cars ever look under the bonnet.They think cars go from one service to the next without any attention , Alfas are known for liking a drop of oil , up to 1 litre per 1000 miles

You're lucky it isn't a Selespeed , they are bad news
 
My personal experience of a modern Alfa is pure bad news, despite that buffoon Clarkson gushing over them. I had a 2002 147 1.6 as a company car some years ago (glad I did not own it).

The rear suspension arm bushes disintegrated at 25K miles. The entire arms were replaced under warranty (manufacturing fault apparently).

The rear number plate lamp bulb kept blowing (got through 5 bulbs in 3 years).

The central locking ceased to work. The Alfa main agent could not find out what was wrong with it, but unfortunately it was out of warranty by then. I just lived with it (used key to open door).

At 75K the engine finally gave up. I kept the car regularly topped up with oil and serviced. Whilst heading north on business on the A1 at Nottinghamshire, I noticed lorries were overtaking me. The engine started to make a metallic noise and could not pull beyond 50 mph. I soldiered on and took it to the main Alfa agent in Knaresborough that day. They believed the problem was the air flow meter. This was replaced, along with plugs and made no difference. They then believed that there was a problem with the cam which would need investigation, likely minimum cost £600. I drove the Italian Bacofoil mobile back to the office, parked it up in the works car park and let the weeds grow up around it before the lease company took it away and replaced it with a Honda Accord 2.2 diesel. No problems whatsoever with the replacement car!

The Italians are great at exterior styling and tan leather but do not have a clue when it comes to electric string and engineering....
 
That blown engine reminds me of Kawasaki triple engines,they liked to throw rods as well.
Thankfully cheaper to fix than the spaghetti engined Alfa :)
 
The cynical voice in my head would say that it would not be in the interest of the main dealer management to have their technical staff solve problems too quickly. Especially when they levy time related charges - £35/hour + VAT for an Alfa Technician to track the problem down by changing every part in the engine bar the windscreen washer motor in an attempt to identify the problem! I thought the £600 + VAT fee for removing the cam and examining what they thought may be a failed VVT adjuster, was probably not far short of what the car was worth at the time!

Surprisingly enough, I have texted the registration details to 88600 - it is still alive! Incredible - someone, somewhere thought it was worth saving. Hurrah!
 
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