Hi, I just thought it was about time I put up a few photos of my P6 I bought earlier in the year, a 1970 zircon blue Irish registered V8. it is in fairly reasonable shape given its age and much outdoor storage before I bought it. the base unit seems fairly sound although where the inner sills meet the floorpan is a bit corroded on both sides, the roof has seen better days and the carpets were just a damp mess so I pulled them out along with a rather dodgey looking LPG setup which seemed rather on the unsafe side. I have not done a whole lot to it yet other than replace the water pump which was a pretty awful experience! All the brakes including the rears need to be done so I am psyching myself up for that. The original plan was to be on the road for the summer but I reckon summer 2011 may be more realistic!
1970 P6 3500
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That's an intriguing mix of S1 and S2! Bonnet and boot both suit the date, but it's got S2 doors and dash. Nowt wrong with that - in fact I'd argue that's a particularely good combination. From the sound of it, nothing too catastrophic or out of the ordinary wrong either. Welcome aboard!
Chris
Chris
Series 2 seats, power steering and Hif carbs too. That fuse box was used on '71 cars though. Could be a late series 1 with lots of series 2 bits or an early series 2 with a few series 1 bits.
The big silver thing with the rubber pipes going to the carbs is the LPG mixer. I'm more curious about the smaller darker thing by the coil with the copper pipes that disappear behind the engine. I thought fuel shut-off solenoid but it doesn't appear to connect to the fuel filter. Mysterious!
Tell us more Stephen79!
Thanks for the interest guys and the welcome. I know absolutely nothing about the history of this car other than 5 previous owners and registered in july 1970 but generally speaking in Ireland over the years a car such as this could have various bits and pieces added off others just to keep it on the road so originality is gone out the window. would anyone know what the correct type of seats i.e colour and material and what colour carpet would have been correct? the carpet I pulled out was beige in colour. just to answer the query on the LPG setup, I never actually ran it on gas although there was a half tank of gas in it, the setup looked tired and unsafe with all sorts of unsafe unions, the small black thing next to the mixer and the coil appeared to be some sort of solenoid and the copper pipes were bringing the gas up from the tank in the boot, I removed the whole lot.
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Seats would have most likely been black leather flat pleat, probably without provision for headrests. They may have been cloth but highly unlikely, they would not have been box pleated nylon like the ones currently fitted as this wasn't available 'til a couple of years later. Carpet with a black interior should be light grey however all the original grey carpets i've seen generally turn a murky light brown due to age and dirt. Oatmeal carpet was also available for cars with tan or cream interiors. It is also possible that your has been swapped of course.
I just said I would post a few photos of this very slowly developing project! not much constructive progress and some rusty spots uncovered but nothing too serious. I just wish I had more time and a better shed to get stuck into it!
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Some more pics of my stripping, I have also removed the webasto roof but I am struggling to get a good solid replacement roof, i have a series 2 spares P 6 but the roof panel is poor enough on it. All advice on repairs greatly appreciated! I am wondering at this stage should I completely strip the car down to the base unit i.e remove engine and box? I had intended it to be a lighter restoration but clearly it needs more than that.
regards, Stephen.
regards, Stephen.
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This is all looking quite good by P6 standards! You've obviously got the rear wings off, is there any damage to the inner wing or D posts?
Clearly welding is required, but by no means scary stuff. I think I'd be inclined to start at the top and work down. After the roof gutters you need to address the screen pillars / A posts. Have the stainless trims off and you are likely to find a few more holes... I'd be inclined to have the front screen out as well, it's a pretty simple job. Have a look at Testriders thread for the likely problems there.
How good are you at welding? There are lots of recent threads that will provide a lot of help.
Chris
Clearly welding is required, but by no means scary stuff. I think I'd be inclined to start at the top and work down. After the roof gutters you need to address the screen pillars / A posts. Have the stainless trims off and you are likely to find a few more holes... I'd be inclined to have the front screen out as well, it's a pretty simple job. Have a look at Testriders thread for the likely problems there.
How good are you at welding? There are lots of recent threads that will provide a lot of help.
Chris
Thanks for the advice Chris, the rear inner wings seem sound for the most part, the rear mounting brackets are a thing of the past, the D posts seem ok but there is some filler in them so maybe more prodding will reveal more. I have already removed the screens which probably is not apparent in the photos. I was once upon a time a reasonable welder but I will have to dust down the mig and get it going again. I have found the forum to be a mine of useful information, without it I would be in trouble! I will put up more photos in due course but progress is painful as I can seldom get time to work on it.
NickDunning
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Stephen79 said:
Certainly originally a Series 1 car. Someone's put the later dash in. Best of borth worlds!
Certainly originally a Series 1 car. Someone's put the later dash in. Best of borth worlds!
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I wonder why someone would have went to the trouble?! is it a straight swop with the wiring? I will more than likely leave it as it is when I put it back together. to be honest the wiring is a mess in it, someone went to town with block connectors and scotch connections sometime over the last 40 years!
[/quote]I wonder why someone would have went to the trouble?! is it a straight swop with the wiring? I will more than likely leave it as it is when I put it back together. to be honest the wiring is a mess in it, someone went to town with block connectors and scotch connections sometime over the last 40 years!