1964 P6, MOT/TAX £600 ONO - Shocking paint work!

Went to look at a P6, the car has a sound on the floor, although of cause can never tell without taking the sills off. But the paint work is a state, worst spray job ever, its warn away in places. Looks like a lot of filler in some of the panels although could just be the terrible paint work. Guy did say would take a little less that £500 but not worth it. Its too good to scrap but really needs a full restore as the paint work is shocking!!!

I took a few pics did not want to waste the guys time too much taking loads of pics. The engine took a few turns to get it running, but it was cold and the starter motor was being lazy. Once running sounded sweet and on all four cylinders.

Was hoping that maybe it was rotten and I could have had it off him for peanuts and steel the engine for mine and sell the rest of the parts.

Here is the add details, although he's photos have gone, looks like the site deletes them after the add ends.


www.wightbay.com P6 add
1964_p6_engine.jpg

1964_p6_front.jpg

1964_p6_rear.jpg

1964_p6_wing.jpg
 
richarduk said:
Went to look at a P6, the car has a sound on the floor, although of cause can never tell without taking the sills off. But the paint work is a state, worst spray job ever, its warn away in places. Looks like a lot of filler in some of the panels although could just be the terrible paint work. Guy did say would take a little less that £500 but not worth it. Its too good to scrap but really needs a full restore as the paint work is shocking!!!

I took a few pics did not want to waste the guys time too much taking loads of pics. The engine took a few turns to get it running, but it was cold and the starter motor was being lazy. Once running sounded sweet and on all four cylinders.

Was hoping that maybe it was rotten and I could have had it off him for peanuts and steel the engine for mine and sell the rest of the parts.

Here is the add details, although he's photos have gone, looks like the site deletes them after the add ends.


www.wightbay.com P6 add
1964_p6_engine.jpg

1964_p6_front.jpg

1964_p6_rear.jpg

1964_p6_wing.jpg
This car was on eBay a few weeks ago and the old chap who won the listing rang me as I was selling my Red early car at that point.
Apparently it's got heavy RTC damage as well in the recent past.

IF it's sound though it's worth 450 quid surely...you don't get a lot of choice with early cars...

Cheers
Nick
 
You sure its the same car? I saw no evidence of a heavy collision.Just looked like a bodged spray job. From what I could see the paint was not even 'car' paint. Looked like B&Q paint and a cheap spray gun. If the paint was that bad then any big accident damage would have been very noticeable.

I think though even if it did have some it does not matter that much as it needs to be totally stripped to correct the paint work. So any rust / damage can be sorted. If you wanted I think it could be kept on the road for some more years but I would be embarrassed to take it to a show. It is the perfect project car in my eyes as its all there and works well. So would not be one of those 'hero' restorations.

I really wish I had the money and space to have it, just tied up with my P6 at the mo. If the engine and brakes on mine had not failed I would have taken it and stored it away for a future restroration, which I plan to do at some point, just learn all the skills at the mo with my P6. :)

P.s Rebuilt most of my brakes at the weekend, just need to replace the pipe running to the rear breaks and the hoses there. It has new/referb callipers on the back and the disks look good. So should last me a long time once done.
 
richarduk said:
You sure its the same car? I saw no evidence of a heavy collision.Just looked like a bodged spray job. From what I could see the paint was not even 'car' paint. Looked like B&Q paint and a cheap spray gun. If the paint was that bad then any big accident damage would have been very noticeable.

I think though even if it did have some it does not matter that much as it needs to be totally stripped to correct the paint work. So any rust / damage can be sorted. If you wanted I think it could be kept on the road for some more years but I would be embarrassed to take it to a show. It is the perfect project car in my eyes as its all there and works well. So would not be one of those 'hero' restorations.

I really wish I had the money and space to have it, just tied up with my P6 at the mo. If the engine and brakes on mine had not failed I would have taken it and stored it away for a future restroration, which I plan to do at some point, just learn all the skills at the mo with my P6. :)

P.s Rebuilt most of my brakes at the weekend, just need to replace the pipe running to the rear breaks and the hoses there. It has new/referb callipers on the back and the disks look good. So should last me a long time once done.
Yes - this is the same car. The gent who won the auction when it was initially listed (in October) rang me as I had a similar car for sale at the time.

The seller had told him that the car had had heavy collision damage to the front - underneath apparently - it had ripped the sump off or similar - and there was apparently damage to the underbody.

The 'winner' then was an elderly chap who was quite distraught - but it looks like he walked away.

Still - I'd pay a few hundred for it. ANY 2000 of that age need preserving, there are precious few.

Cheers
Nick
 
That sounds very odd, it all looked fine on the front end. Maybe he was told a tall story for some very odd reason. Can't see why.
When I looked under it could not see and repaired damage like that although was not looking for any of that sort. The worst I saw and the rear jacking points had been welded, but you'll expect that at that age. Its a life long Island car, all Island cars have DL as the second two letters of the plate. I'ts got to be the oldest if not the only serving Island brought P6. There are a few others fitting about on the Island, although I've only seen one multicoloured one. Mine was imported from Jersey. Original reg J8833. God I wish I could get that back on the car, very much doubt it. :( I got the passport of the car, sold by St Helier Garages 87 Bath Street, Jersey.

Any ways, going off topic now. :)
 
In my experience the P6 has never been easy to repair after heavy (frontal) accident damage. They were very advanced for their time in the way they progressivly crumpled on impact and that meant they never pulled out in the way you would need, once the crossmember went back they weren't worth repairing without new inner wings etc, and often it can be difficult to see when the crossmember has moved.
 
Just don't sit right with what I saw. But its all academic as I would have thought fixing damage like this is not that different to fixing bad rust. Cut it out, rebuild with new metal / panels. And as the paint work is so poor it would really need a complete strip down and rebuild.

Question is, is a complete car better to restore than a straight one missing half its bits? (With both having the usual rust areas)

P.s. I'm not going to get this car, just in case it sounds like I will. ;)
Need to buy a house with more space before I take on a restore and just don't have the skills yet. :)
 
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