Waist Seal End Finishers?

302Rover

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I'm told by a parts supplier that the waist seal end finishers for the P6 doors are no longer available and haven't been for decades. So the question now becomes "what is being done to substitute for them"? The obvious solution is a tube of RTV but I am hoping for some thing a bit more elegant. Does anyone out there in cyber Roverland have any suggestions?

Cheers,
Tom
 
Hi - there are some that are unavailable - but if you mean the ones between doors and wings i think they are available from the english suppliers at least?
 
Hi Rich,

The waist finishers are the little metal clips with a rubber cap that fit down into the top of the door around the frame.

Ron.
 
SydneyRoverP6B said:
Hi Rich,

The waist finishers are the little metal clips with a rubber cap that fit down into the top of the door around the frame.

Ron.
Ron,
right, these are the little devils that I'm refering to. Apparently they are no longer available so the problem becomes what to use as a substitute that looks good. RTV squeezed in the openings would be functional but looks like crap. I'm wondering if there is something from another car that could be pressed into service, perhaps with some mods.

All 8 of those on my car are missing so I need to do something to seal off the openings.
Cheers,
Tom
 
I don't know what RTV is short for. I used black seam sealer but I agree it doesn't look as nice as the proper rubber thingamejigs.
 
I am in possession of 7 of my 8, but at least four of them are starting to look a little dodgy. I was thinking of going down to Para Rubber and taking a look at the all the profiles available to see if something could be contrived. I don't mind if it's not original, but it has to look the part (pretty much the philosophy behind my powder-coated quarter panels, for example).
 
WarrenL said:
I am in possession of 7 of my 8, but at least four of them are starting to look a little dodgy. I was thinking of going down to Para Rubber and taking a look at the all the profiles available to see if something could be contrived. I don't mind if it's not original, but it has to look the part (pretty much the philosophy behind my powder-coated quarter panels, for example).

Warren,
I agree with your approach and will be very interested to see if you find some sort of acceptable substitute. One place I haven't yet checked with is Scotts Old Auto Rubber. I'll contact those guys to see if they can recommend anything.

Cheers,
Tom
 
About 15 years ago the place where I was working had tins of black rubbery goo in which we dipped temperature sensors for refrigeration units. One smoko I surreptitiously fished my somewhat tatty waist finishers out of my pocket and dipped them. This actually looked quite good, and extended their lifespan by at least the last 15 years. However they're starting to look crappy again, and while they might take a second dipping I've decided it's worth looking for a new solution.
 
RTV = Room Temperature Vulcanising, meaning it will set off at room temp as opposed to
some products that need to be cooked to set off.
 
WarrenL said:
About 15 years ago the place where I was working .

Gad-Zooks Batman, has it been that long :(

I am sure I will have all 8 in pristine condition as my car spends its waking and sleeping hours garaged in the dark as it has since 1987, cant say for previous owners.
I am too lazy to go out and check what ever those thingy-ma-jigs are, that and the flooding which is surrounding that particular garage at the moment precludes my desire to know but rest assured once the waters abate I will have a deeko and find out some more.

Hopefully Warren your Para expedition will yield some result as a lot on NZ content for rubber parts came from Para.


Graeme
 
Hi. Does anyone have a photo of one of these ^ ? I've never had them fitted to my car. They perished a long time ago and the gaps have since been filled with Dum Dum sealing compound. I'd quite like to see what the original parts look like :)

Will
 
If I get a chance I'll take a pic, Windmill. Meanwhile, I emailed Mark Gray (http://www.roverp6cars.com/) last night regarding other matters and I took the opportunity to ask him about waist finishers. Here's his reply:

"The door to glass rubbers are work in progress complete with the metal strip inside them. As are the end of door rubbers which seal around the ends of the door to frames. Watch this space cos there is loads happening."

Maybe I won't bother to take a trip to Para after all.
 
I emailed Scott of Scotts Old Auto Rubber in Oz and got this reply back from him:

"We do not list these as they are tricky to modify, all we have is an extrusion
that you trim to fit and mitre to go around the corner. it is $13.33/metre.
Looks fantastic as long as it has been well done.'

Apparently you would have to form one piece from two by mitering and gluing at the mitered edge. There would be no embedded metal clip so its not clear how the piece would attach to the door. I haven't seen the extrusion but the price is cheap and may be worth ordering a metre for experimentation.

Cheers,
Tom
 
WarrenL said:
If I get a chance I'll take a pic, Windmill. Meanwhile, I emailed Mark Gray (http://www.roverp6cars.com/) last night regarding other matters and I took the opportunity to ask him about waist finishers. Here's his reply:

"The door to glass rubbers are work in progress complete with the metal strip inside them. As are the end of door rubbers which seal around the ends of the door to frames. Watch this space cos there is loads happening."

Maybe I won't bother to take a trip to Para after all.

Worth waiting for Mark to get these manufactured IMHO.

I recently bought a set of bumper iron rubbers from Mark as my 10 year old NOS (at the time) rubbers had dropped to bits. The rubbers Mark supplied me were of very high quality indeed. A very dense rubber with a good finish and well defined pyramidal shaping in the rubbers that the NOS ones lacked. I fitted these last weekend and can't stop looking at them - they look a million times better than the old items!

I know Mark well and he is a perfectionist, so I am sure his end of door rubbers will be spot on.
 
I just bought a bonnet badge off Mark (along with some random seals, grommets, etc) and it is superb. Better quality than the original, as discussed somewhere in another thread. Everything arrived in little bags with labels showing the part number and description. Can't speak highly enough of him. If he's getting waist finishers made, they'll be worth waiting for.
 
hi,
a solution to the end rubbers is to use the door to glass seal from an sdi ( the inside door to glass seal ) a friend of mine did this years ago and they looked good.

ian
 
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