Unloading my Series 2 ‘Fuse Box’.

DaveRover3500s

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As a self confessed list maker I finally got down to the “sort the fuse box” note! It’s been listed for at least 2 years but other priorities as always though last year I did make a start sorting out new bus line feed from the amp gauge shunt behind the dash for my twin fans and fuel pump relay feeds. But I wanted to deal with the known loads that can melt the fuse box during normal service. My plan was to use the amp meter shunt connectors to provide a new bus line feed to a new 6 way blade type fuse box and add another 4 relays to the 2 I have and take the Dip beam, Main Beam, Rear heated window and heater blower motor loads away from the fuse box and by default, the ignition switch. Looking at the wiring diagram fuse 75- fuse 21-22 windscreen wipers connection has a tap off it to feed for heater motor fuse and then another tap off that for heated rear screen fuse - 3 on together make quite a load! That said I think most common one I have read and seen to melt is the main beam inner lights fuse - 150 watts if still using the 75 watt sealed beams - near 13 amps continues load.
After couple long days I am nearly there with 4 relays mounted right next to the Lucas fuse box under the dash - room is a premium there but I did not want relays in the engine bay area and wanted to use existing cables for dip, main beams, heated rear screen and blower motor. I mounted a 6 way blade type fuse box under the dash (see pics) which would supply main load feeds for relays leaving original fuse box to supply just the tiny current trigger feed for relay coils. I decided to go with one main beam and one dip beam relay and use Lucas 4.7mm bullets and black connectors for all connections and use corresponding wire colours where needed from a scrap loom which will make fault finding and identification easier.
Not yet fully complete - had to move Lucas fuss box over to right by 25mm to allow 3 x relays to be fitted to side panel. Then a 4th relays under dash up high next to new fuse box also mounted right under dash. All positioned to allow full access to relays and fuse boxes. Finishing up tomorrow hopefully - so far tested and all ok. One new circuit does not need a relay just a permanent feed - my newly fitted remote central locking! A ‘hidden mod’ and something I thought would be handy and while I had doors apart to do a refurb I thought why not give it a go! I had done on cars back in the day inc when I took out of a Jag XJ doors and fitted actuators to my hillman imp back in 80s! I got the kit off eBay. Not expensive but needed much modification and lots work to fit actuators in the doors and run wiring looms etc. PITA job never again but it works well enough. If anyone interested I can provide insight of experience.
Most of additional wiring put in spiral wrap and kept as tidy as possible under dash. Central locking module placed under dash to right of central consul fixed to bulkhead. Few pics below - not looking tidy as in progress pics but tomorrow will provide finished work pics!

Dave
 

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So it’s been very busy couple days since last update. Along with the fuses box and relay mods the head lining and rear screen have been replaced with help of couple very handy fellow P6 mates who stepped up to help. Was also great to have 2 more P6s at the house this morning!.
Had to wait till today for more Lucas bullets to arrive to finish the work on the relays and Lucas fuse box wiring. Connections completed so into testing. Other than the panel lights not working and rev counter all tested ok. Panel lights the dimmer was turned down plus the link wire behind fuse box had loose connection - will fully resolve that tomorrow it’s where it connects behind fuse box from the side lights connection. Next I fitted 2 amp fuses to the now low current relay coil supplies from Lucas fuse box. Plus side lights fuses now 2amp as led and panel lights fuse also 2amp as led lights fitted.
The Lucas fuse box now has only the battery control, ignition control and wiper fuses with original fuses, all rest are 2amp with main beam and dip beam reduced to one 2amp fuse each as I have decided to go with one relay for each set lights (main and dip) rather than 4 Relays.
While changing fuses I noticed that at least 3 fuses for main beam heater and rear screen were loose ish in the tongs one fuse almost fell out! So would got caught out am sure some point.
Few tweaks tomorrow then on to other jobs inc rev counter now dead! And sort proper idents for new fuse box!
Am pleased with outcome and especially like its all tucked out the way and hidden pretty much.

Dave
 

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The pic (we like pics!) shows a classic example of a fuse box that’s overheated! This one is on a scrap loom taken from a late 75 3500. Spent fair bit of time removing loom intact only to discover it had been repaired back in the day due to overheating. No surprise it was fuse 21-22 wipers motor and 23-24 rear screen heater which are linked. The auto electrician of the day did a work around. Could easily been mine next! I do think it’s a matter when not if this overheating will occur- but I guess not too many rear screen heaters are used now - or work! And wipers less used as tend not to use cars in wet weather which reduces risk somewhat. It does also show how resilient ignition switch connection is (no.5).

FOG LAMPS
Having recently fitted front Lucas 8 fog lamps with halogen bulbs I used the existing loom connections to connect them. I assumed the dip beam fuses might double up somehow but reviewing the wiring diagram I was fairly surprised to find the fog lights have NO fuse! Once they are set to on the feed from the battery (via ammeter shunt) is a direct feed - no fuse. So should there be a short circuit on fog lamp wiring it will melt and burn until something gives! It won’t end well! Not good so one more job to add to list - modify with relay and in line fuse!

Dave
 

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As a self confessed list maker I finally got down to the “sort the fuse box” note! It’s been listed for at least 2 years but other priorities as always though last year I did make a start sorting out new bus line feed from the amp gauge shunt behind the dash for my twin fans and fuel pump relay feeds. But I wanted to deal with the known loads that can melt the fuse box during normal service. My plan was to use the amp meter shunt connectors to provide a new bus line feed to a new 6 way blade type fuse box and add another 4 relays to the 2 I have and take the Dip beam, Main Beam, Rear heated window and heater blower motor loads away from the fuse box and by default, the ignition switch. Looking at the wiring diagram fuse 75- fuse 21-22 windscreen wipers connection has a tap off it to feed for heater motor fuse and then another tap off that for heated rear screen fuse - 3 on together make quite a load! That said I think most common one I have read and seen to melt is the main beam inner lights fuse - 150 watts if still using the 75 watt sealed beams - near 13 amps continues load.
After couple long days I am nearly there with 4 relays mounted right next to the Lucas fuse box under the dash - room is a premium there but I did not want relays in the engine bay area and wanted to use existing cables for dip, main beams, heated rear screen and blower motor. I mounted a 6 way blade type fuse box under the dash (see pics) which would supply main load feeds for relays leaving original fuse box to supply just the tiny current trigger feed for relay coils. I decided to go with one main beam and one dip beam relay and use Lucas 4.7mm bullets and black connectors for all connections and use corresponding wire colours where needed from a scrap loom which will make fault finding and identification easier.
Not yet fully complete - had to move Lucas fuss box over to right by 25mm to allow 3 x relays to be fitted to side panel. Then a 4th relays under dash up high next to new fuse box also mounted right under dash. All positioned to allow full access to relays and fuse boxes. Finishing up tomorrow hopefully - so far tested and all ok. One new circuit does not need a relay just a permanent feed - my newly fitted remote central locking! A ‘hidden mod’ and something I thought would be handy and while I had doors apart to do a refurb I thought why not give it a go! I had done on cars back in the day inc when I took out of a Jag XJ doors and fitted actuators to my hillman imp back in 80s! I got the kit off eBay. Not expensive but needed much modification and lots work to fit actuators in the doors and run wiring looms etc. PITA job never again but it works well enough. If anyone interested I can provide insight of experience.
Most of additional wiring put in spiral wrap and kept as tidy as possible under dash. Central locking module placed under dash to right of central consul fixed to bulkhead. Few pics below - not looking tidy as in progress pics but tomorrow will provide finished work pics!

Dave
Note! The horrible scotch connector thing has now been removed and Lucas bullet and 4 block connection put in its place!
 
Yes that’s a very good mod to do- not something anyone can tackle though!
Many don’t work on electrical section. If your not competent it’s best avoided or get expert in. Not easy as glove box off and working on knees and under dashboard but with U tube , forum checks it can enable confident DIY with skill set to tackle. Tip I got from web search was making a broken hacksaw blade into a release tool. Thus enabling each fuse/wire section to easily be removed ready for new box. Important to note colours/ wires before starting! Label new box and of course inform Insurance company any changes to vehicle.
 
Oh your so right re working on knees or bent into funny odd shape to look up under dash and in that corner I felt tad broken after long day cracking on! Agree electrical section not worth getting involved if not your thing getting it wrong is likely very costly. Agree re labelling new fuses and relays - got round to that once complete. Good point re insurance company I will give them a call.

Dave
 

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