Somebody order a batch of Koni shockers?

Tor

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Through the South African Koni distributor I've learnt that Koni NL are producing a batch of some 50 (presumably front) red adjustables for the P6, of which we've secured one as one in my off-the-shelf pair had failed and can't be rebuilt. Anyone know of this? I've no further details of pricing yet.
 
ghce said:
Wot! a rover mono cycle :LOL:

oops where is my coat


Graeme
The shocks! The horrors!

John you'd have to try these guys if you want to try to negotiate a set:
D&S Shocks
Steve Hurley
011-9182293

The batch is apparently destined for the UK, hence the post.

Tor
 
Hi, when these do come to light check that the mountings are right. ISTR a reference in a
thread about some coming through with wrong bushings. I can't remember who had it or
what make of damper but they sent them back with an advice note and was promised a
resolution but I don't think anything was heard again.

Colin
 
colnerov said:
Hi, when these do come to light check that the mountings are right. ISTR a reference in a
thread about some coming through with wrong bushings. I can't remember who had it or
what make of damper but they sent them back with an advice note and was promised a
resolution but I don't think anything was heard again.


I think that was with AVO dampers.
 
Tor said:
John you'd have to try these guys if you want to try to negotiate a set:
D&S Shocks
Steve Hurley
011-9182293

The batch is apparently destined for the UK, hence the post.

Tor
Cheers, Tor! I'll drop them a line.
 
billoddie said:
Tor said:
as one in my off-the-shelf pair had failed and can't be rebuilt.

Why is that?
I don't have all the details, Hurley had spent hours on it and couldn't get it right. The fault was that it was rigid and would hardly extend (bump stroke) at all.
 
So, I called him yesterday and he had no idea what I was talking about. He offered
me some GAZ ones for R1500 a corner, (+-100 quid in real money) though.
 
unstable load said:
So, I called him yesterday and he had no idea what I was talking about. He offered
me some GAZ ones for R1500 a corner, (+-100 quid in real money) though.
[FLUSHED FACE]
Not quite sure what the deal is there John. It's Alan who's been in touch with him on this. I'll have a chat with him.

I paid a touch more for my Swedish Konis than what he quoted you for those, FYI.
 
Just out of curiosity are the Koni Reds regarded as a good/superior gas substitute while retaining the original ride quality? At some point mine are going to have to go and I'm keen to get the better damping gas offers but not really into tweaking AVOs and the like.

There are lots of threads on dampers and my main conclusion is the whole topic looks like a minefield.
 
Hi Peter,

Koni shocks are adjustable and fully servicable, meaning in theory, once you have a pair or a set, you'll not need to buy more. They are adjusted off the car, not once they are fitted. The original Woodhead shocks had a very soft cushioning effect whereas the Koni shocks are firmer to start with, progressively becoming stiffer as you adjust them to suit your driving preference.

I have been using Koni shocks on my Rover since 1987, with some 250,000 Miles (403,000km) of quality service to date from them thus far, and I have never had a problem with them.

Ron.
 
Thanks for the feedback. I actually quite like the P6 ride, part of its character and wouldn't want to go very much stiffer overall. Is there any way to achieve a more progressive spring/damping to prevent corning on the sills or would such a set-up introduce some unpredictable handling characteristics?

To me, taming the roll a little without making it too harsh would be the holy grail. Has anybody successfully added a degree of anti-roll at the rear without major surgery?
 
Tor said:
[FLUSHED FACE].
No need, mate! I'm sure there's a simple explanation.
I am cool with it because at the end of the day I have found a supplier for shocks in SA
that isn't going to require me taking out another mortgage on the house.
 
You really need to see if you can have a drive of one Peter that has Koni shocks fitted whilst still retaining the original springs.

There will be less body roll which will see an improvement in handling dynamics, which to me makes the car a safer proposition. Stiffer springs paired with Koni shocks in my opinion transforms the Rover into a much more secure, sure footed car where not only road holding, but also braking are improved upon.

As with everything though there is a price to pay, and doing such will take away the body roll in addition to some of the soft tendancies that the original settings will offer. Having driven both though, to me the changes are well and truly worth it.

If you ever wanted to improve the performance of your engine or indeed go down the bigger capacity route as I have, then uprating the suspension is pretty well mandatory.

Ron.
 
Seems like sound advice. My issue is likely to be the investment vs. the number of miles I will actually do in the car. Anything that improves the overall safety is definitely a priority.
 
SydneyRoverP6B said:
I have been using Koni shocks on my Rover since 1987, with some 250,000 Miles (403,000km) of quality service to date from them thus far, and I have never had a problem with them.

Ron.
:shock:
Which begs the question, how many sets or rebuilds have you had during that time and mileage?
 
Tor wrote,...
Which begs the question, how many sets or rebuilds have you had during that time and mileage?

Hi Tor,

The first set were Koni Reds, as at that time the Black Classics had not been manufactured. I removed the first set in early March 1995 and fitted the Classics, which had been uprated for me by 40% over standard by the Koni Australian importer. The Classics on the front have now seen over 170,000 Miles (274,000km) of service to date, and continue to function perfectly. The Classic rears I swapped back to the reds and their softer settings (all part of the experiment to determine exactly what combination works best in terms of settings) during 2008. The rear Reds now have close to 180,000 Miles (290,000km) of service, and like their Classic counterparts on the front, continue to function perfectly.

When adjusting the Koni shocks, holding them in the correct orientation will prevent any problems with their functionality from occuring, both then and down the track. The local Koni importers were very clear about that when I purchased my first set from them way back in 1987.

Ron.
 
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