She's alive!!!! - The new engine is sweet. :-)

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richarduk

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Just fired her up for the first time, she sounds beautiful!!! She's ran for half an hour now, no oil leeks! Which surprised me, was not confident in the O rings as oil seals. Guess that was misguided. The car feels so nice just from moving it about to turn her around. No clunks at all from the transmission. Very very smooth. Just have to fix the manifold ware a bolt hole has stripped out. Its blowing a little. Then I'll give her a dam good clean and off for her MOT. :) I'm so relived to get past that first start up with out pistons flying out of the side of the engine. ;) Now to get past the 1000 mile mark. The MOT 'should' be a breeze. I've got a bit of a cold, a Christmas present form the girlfriend so I'm off to get into the bath then bed. I'm so please she's alive (the car that is, not to say the girl friend is not, because she is. I think you know what I mean. ;) ) and feels so smooth even though she's moved only a few feet. :)

Thanks to everyone who has helped, Kev with some bits I needed, like the conrod and to Alan for the bottom end that just needed to be put together. Also thanks to Harvey for the advice, I hope I've done it all correct and the flex plate will last as long as the engine. ;) I feel like an apprentice who's just service he's first car all by him self.



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I've got a bit of a cold, a Christmas present form the girlfriend so I'm off to get into the bath then bed. I'm so please she's alive and feels so smooth even though she's moved only a few feet.
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I'm not quite sure we needed that much information about your girlfriend :D

Excellent to see you've got it running again, fingers crossed for the MOT.
 
Result Richard!

It's always so satisfying when something you've sweated over first bursts into life. Sounds like it's a milestone in car mechanicing for you too!

Well Done

Chris
 
Just fitted the Oil pressure gauge so I can keep an eye on her. At tick over she's showing 50psi! :) Going to take the dog for a walk, i'll see what I get driving down the road.
 
I remember my old 2.2TC, the first P6 I had about 15 years ago, the oil pressure warning light used to come on at idle, a mechanic told me not to worry about it..... About 500 miles later the big ends let go, basically the low oil pressure was due to the big ends being warn, oh well you live and learn.
 
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I remember my old 2.2TC, the first P6 I had about 15 years ago, the oil pressure warning light used to come on at idle, a mechanic told me not to worry about it..... About 500 miles later the big ends let go, basically the low oil pressure was due to the big ends being warn, oh well you live and learn.
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I changed the oil switch when the engine was rebuilt, I suspected the old one was not working correctly. With the big end slapping about (the shells had all but fallen out and were like tin foil) yet the car still did not turn on the oil light. It was on at start up but soon went out. Obvisley I did not have a gauge on it so no idea what the pressure was, must have been low though.

Now its 50psi at tick over and over 60 whilst driving, depending on how hard I let her rev, which is not much for too long at the mo. Still only got 380 miles on the engine. When over 1000 miles and an oil change then I can let her kick down for longer and harder. I do let her do it a little to give the rings a chance to bed in well.

I'm very pleased. :)
 
Regarding oil pressures what i have seen in my engine is that while it is perfectly acceptable at idle even hot (45 PSI) it won't go over 55-60 PSI at speed. And it is an old worn out engine. Is it typical for these engines to not raise too much the oil pressure at speed?
Or the spring in the pressure relief valve is too soft?
The only other experience i have is from A series engines where the difference between idle and at speed oil pressure is much higher as it will reach easily 80 PSI.

Demetris
 
Very pleased the bottom end has lived up to expectations Richard and much better it's doing what it was intended for rather than rotting away in my shed. I would be interested to what sort of compression you can get once she's bedded in. The engineering works that carried out the re-bore have been there since the year dot and have a good reputation for engine work.
With regard to the '64 car the buyer did pick it up apparently...all the way from Belgium. Now thats what I call committment! Wonder if he's on the forum......?

All the best

Alan
 
Mine idles at 50psi and drops slightly when in gear, being an auto. At speed she's just under 60 psi just like yours. When I kick down she will pop over 60, but only a very little amount. As mine is a rebuilt engine I would expect it to be a little higher than yours. I too expected the range the pressure moves to be more. But thinking about it does the the oil pump run at the revs as the crank? Or the same revs as one on an A series engine? It says 50 -> 60 in the manual so I guess these engines just run with a more even pressure. Maybe that's why A series engines always leak oil. :D Its blowing it out because the pressure range is rather wild. ???
From what I here, the v8 guys would love our oil pressure. :;):
 
Since yours is a freshly rebuilt one then the oil pressure range should be the typical for these engines. And it also means that mine, bore wear apart is not in such a bad shape. Indeed, the bottom end is silent, and the engine especially at idle is rather quiet. All you can hear is some moderate chain noise and the occasional ticking valve. It is very tempting to sort out the valve clearances and the chains and leave it as is for later, rather than plunging into a full rebuilt soon.

The oil pump in an A series runs at half engine speed since it is driven by the camshaft. And the reputation for oil leaks is another of the old wives tales. A sorted one will be as dry as you like.

Demetris
 
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The oil pump in an A series runs at half engine speed since it is driven by the camshaft. And the reputation for oil leaks is another of the old wives tales. A sorted one will be as dry as you like.
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All the ones I worked on where always leaking, mind you most were school run cars so prob all the breathers were blocked up form never being ran for more than 5 mins. ;) Also being the second car only worked on when they broke down.

Anyway, back to P6's, I've updated my blog on the PC forum with some pictures. :)
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