rover for scrap spotted!

miz484

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hi everyone!

last weekend my friend told me that there was rover for scrap... i never saw a rover like this the back is like a pick up. may be it was made in malta like that! :) here is the photo of the rover! :D

cheers
mark

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I'm pretty sure I read about a joinery firm somewhere using those, that was a while ago, probably the same pick up. I seem to remember they had a couple of them.
 
I like the look of that! the design lines are really good, Rover would have had a good market for those had they been an option.

Graeme
 
FrazzleTC said:
I'm pretty sure I read about a joinery firm somewhere using those, that was a while ago, probably the same pick up. I seem to remember they had a couple of them.


That was on the Isle of Wight and it was a general builders not a joiner.

I have a side on pic of one of theirs that shows it to be different.


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My mate's Uncle built a P6 pick up in the late 70's in Amington, Tamworth. The car was 3500 and was used by his company Amington Garage, as the runabout. Amington Garage had a motor cycle racing team using works Gussi's and ex- works Ducatti's and was a dealership for KTM at that time. Hence, the car carried the registration number '50 KTM' but this was sold separately to the car when the business was sold. The car went with the business which was renamed 'Marlborough Motors' when taken over and the car spotted their tartan colours for a while. The car still existed and was around Tamworth until the mid 90's to my knowledge when it dissappeared off the radar.
There was also a guy who lived in Kingstanding B'ham who had a Series 1 3500 chopped into a pick up and it was fitted with a recovery crane and jib. That car had a short block chevy lump and a jag back axle under it. The owner was a builder and moved to north wales in 95 or 96 and I met him just a few days before he moved. He also claimed to be the owner of a P6 'van' which had been built using the back end of a marina/ital van which he used for work, but I never actually saw the vehicle. The back of his pickup/recovery was lined with checker plate and when I first saw it, I thought it was my mate's uncle's old pick up but apparently this one had been built in the early seventies fom a car which had sustained some rear end damage at some time.
It would be nice to hope that these cars still existed somewhere and might surface again in some barn!.
 
richarduk said:
I can think of a lot more better suited cars than the P6 to be converted to a pick up.

I can't. Because I can't think of a better suited car than a Rover P6 for anything.
 
Junkman said:
richarduk said:
I can think of a lot more better suited cars than the P6 to be converted to a pick up.

I can't. Because I can't think of a better suited car than a Rover P6 for anything.

For anything? Track day tool? The P6 is a bloody heavy, understeery, body-roll-y pig of a thing for stuff like that...
Lugging large loads? P6's boot is hardly enormous, even on the estates... Tough off-roading? You need a Range Rover for that...
 
EccentricRichard said:
Junkman said:
richarduk said:
I can think of a lot more better suited cars than the P6 to be converted to a pick up.

I can't. Because I can't think of a better suited car than a Rover P6 for anything.

For anything? Track day tool? The P6 is a bloody heavy, understeery, body-roll-y pig of a thing for stuff like that...
Lugging large loads? P6's boot is hardly enormous, even on the estates... Tough off-roading? You need a Range Rover for that...

Looks are deceiving a P6 is not a heavy car, it may not be a Daihatsu Charade or a Mira but it certainly is the same weight as the average modern Japanese saloon cars such as my Honda Accord and has a lot more snot to boot as well. I really do not know where this perception of "big and heavy" comes from it certainly has no basis in fact!!

Graeme
 
ghce said:
Looks are deceiving a P6 is not a heavy car
Graeme

My modern 57 plate Astra is heavier than my p6. At the local tip I get to drive over a weigh bridge, with me and a boot load of rubish comes out around 1200kg or there abouts.
For the Astra they quote Kerb Weight kg @ 1318 and Gross Weight kg @ 1840 (don't know what the differentce is, guessing gross is with four adults in???)
 
Absolutly right, 4 adults and lugage :D It really pi$$es me off when people spout crap about the weight of p6's you dont mind informed debate but utter rubbish based on a cars looks is total unacceptable.

Graeme
 
EccentricRichard said:
Junkman said:
richarduk said:
I can think of a lot more better suited cars than the P6 to be converted to a pick up.

I can't. Because I can't think of a better suited car than a Rover P6 for anything.

For anything? Track day tool? The P6 is a bloody heavy, understeery, body-roll-y pig of a thing for stuff like that...
Lugging large loads? P6's boot is hardly enormous, even on the estates... Tough off-roading? You need a Range Rover for that...

Remind me why you're on a Rover Forum again? :LOL:

I thought we all liked them :?
 
ghce said:
EccentricRichard said:
For anything? Track day tool? The P6 is a bloody heavy, understeery, body-roll-y pig of a thing for stuff like that... Lugging large loads? P6's boot is hardly enormous, even on the estates... Tough off-roading? You need a Range Rover for that...

Looks are deceiving, a P6 is not a heavy car. It may not be a Daihatsu Charade or a Mira but it certainly is the same weight as the average modern Japanese saloon cars such as my Honda Accord and has a lot more snot to boot as well. I really do not know where this perception of "big and heavy" comes from it certainly has no basis in fact!!

Graeme

The 3500S (the pick of the range for me) weighs in at 1295kg - far too heavy for a track-day tool. You want something about 800kg - Lotus, Caterham, Ariel, etc... it's also got a wheelbase of 2625mm, or 103.3 inches, compared to less than 95 inches for any of the usual trackday favourites. Also, the P6's predominant handling characteristics on the limit are body roll and understeer - neither of which is desirable for a track car.

Of course, as a family saloon, it's fine - and, as you point out, no heavier than comparable modern cars. In fact, it's over 300kg lighter than a Ford Mondeo 2.2 diesel... I was just picking apart Junkman's argument that there is no car better suited to any task than a P6...
 
How many of us want a track day car anyhow ?
You've got to compare the P6 with it's counterparts of it's time plus also how well it compares to more modern equivalents
 
DaveHerns said:
How many of us want a track day car anyhow ?
You've got to compare the P6 with it's counterparts of it's time plus also how well it compares to more modern equivalents

Quite, my comment was (deliberately) missing the point of the P6, merely taking issue with Junkman's comment that the P6 was basically perfect for every task... by the way, Dave, don't tell me you've never felt the desire to take a car you like and give it a good ragging round Castle Combe or Brands Hatch or Donington or Silverstone or Spa or the Nurburgring or somesuch?

My life won't be complete until I've driven something with a high-revving straight-six or V10 or V12 flat out up through Eau Rouge... or felt the terror of the novice almost losing it on one of the Nurburgring's blind-apex off-camber corners in the wet... and the relief of avoiding a crash, then later on the elation of stringing together a really good lap.
 
Dear EccentricRichard,

if you like a car, it can be perfect for every purpose, for you, just for you.
So if someone likes a P6, and he wants to use it even for track days, then it is fine! Be careful, we are not talking about being the fastest, but for its owner it's going to be good fun. Just because this is what he wants. If he wanted a Lotus or a Caterham he wouldn't be after a P6, right?
And there are a few people on this forum that modify and use their cars accordingly.

Of course, a P6 would never go around a bend as fast as a Caterham, just as a Caterham will never be able to accomodate more than two persons! But i think it is rather boring to state the obvious isn't it?

Finaly, just a friendly comment inspired from your posts in here.

You obviously have spent too much time reading car magazines, watching Top Gear and browsing the internet. You need really badly to get your hands dirty and find out for yourself which V8 engine and which gearbox will fit the P6, or what spring and damper rates are the best compromise. Thank God, there are all sorts of projects for inspiration in this forum, or i will be more happy to see that you can find a new route.
I repeat that i wrote the last paragraph in good will and as a friendly prompting. :D
 
EccentricRichard said:
GrimV8 said:
Remind me why you're on a Rover Forum again? :LOL:

I thought we all liked them :?

I like them too. Doesn't mean I'm blind to their foibles/inadequacies for certain purposes.
Me neither, but when you have replaced everything with modern as you regularly mention and start comparing them to
'You want something about 800kg - Lotus, Caterham, Ariel, etc... it's also got a wheelbase of 2625mm, or 103.3 inches, compared to less than 95 inches for any of the usual trackday favourites.' you should be comparing them with other saloon cars of the era in their class or at least in the same park. Otherwise you'll end up with an impractical modern predictable kit car/track toy which is not what a P6 will ever be :| Lose all the foibles and you've lost the whole thing IMO.
Is this one too dull for track days?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMOT3jBxdLA
You can make them do what you want but it should still resemble a P6 for me to some level :)
 
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