P6 11-yr restoration dilema

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Paprika

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I couldn't find a thread on this, so apologies if this has already been covered

I'm not out to stir, but as it's appeared on an all-marque forum I'm part of, I'm asking, please,if anyone could help and advise here?

How to talk your P6 down

Please see the post from 'karen'
 
Paprika said:
Please see the post from 'karen'
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Yikes. Not a good write-up for using Reg's services, although I certainly wouldn't have left it for 11 years!!
 
Doesn't sound good :eek:

Mind you, when it's on the other foot it aint funny either. Got two here that I wish weren't :(
 
Why on earth did you leave the car there for eleven years? And why in universe did you give it back to that person?
 
Junkman said:
Why on earth did you leave the car there for eleven years? And why in universe did you give it back to that person?
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Not sure about this instance, but Trading Standards usually tell you to do that and give them the chance to rectify :)
I had a customer use someone else for welding as I was on holiday and it was a real sight. Ruined the car, they had to take it back as the first step :?
 
GrimV8 said:
Junkman said:
Why on earth did you leave the car there for eleven years? And why in universe did you give it back to that person?
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Not sure about this instance, but Trading Standards usually tell you to do that and give them the chance to rectify :)
I had a customer use someone else for welding as I was on holiday and it was a real sight. Ruined the car, they had to take it back as the first step :?
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Yeah, but I bet it didn't take them eleven years to do. And Trading Standards telling me something and me doing it can be worlds apart, too.

The bottom line is: this man bought himself a Rover P6 to enjoy and here we are 11+ years later with negative progress. Trading Standards here, Trading Standards there, after 11 weeks I would have taken the car off him and given someone who actually works on it. Not doing this for eleven years minus eleven weeks is completely beyond me. I lift my hat for so much tolerance, patience and good heartedness, but as you can see, these virtues can work against you.
 
Junkman said:
GrimV8 said:
Junkman said:
Why on earth did you leave the car there for eleven years? And why in universe did you give it back to that person?
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Not sure about this instance, but Trading Standards usually tell you to do that and give them the chance to rectify :)
I had a customer use someone else for welding as I was on holiday and it was a real sight. Ruined the car, they had to take it back as the first step :?
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Yeah, but I bet it didn't take them eleven years to do. And Trading Standards telling me something and me doing it can be worlds apart, too.

The bottom line is: this man bought himself a Rover P6 to enjoy and here we are 11+ years later with negative progress. Trading Standards here, Trading Standards there, after 11 weeks I would have taken the car off him and given someone who actually works on it. Not doing this for eleven years minus eleven weeks is completely beyond me. I lift my hat for so much tolerance, patience and good heartedness, but as you can see, these virtues can work against you.
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My thoughts exactly :)
 
How does that happen, HOW. I'm left aghast! This story has just blown my head off.............. OMG! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
 
Think we need Reg's side of the story before we jump to conclusions
Would anyone want a car cluttering up their workshop for 11 years ?
 
I've seen plenty of commercial restorations take 5+ years. Usually the customer doesn't want to pay for a full-on focussed job, so it's a case of £xxx here and there and "fit it in as you can".
 
DaveHerns said:
Would anyone want a car cluttering up their workshop for 11 years ?
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Probably not, but surely then, he'd do something to get it out toute-suite?? After all, it's all up to him to make it go away.
 
Hi All
I know the story behind this car and all isn't as it seams. If you really want to know more I suggest you ask Reg himself and if you contact me off list I will give you his direct line number.

You not only have to read the story but you have to ask yourself just what did the customer ask for.
 
MarkGray said:
Hi All
I know the story behind this car and all isn't as it seams. If you really want to know more I suggest you ask Reg himself and if you contact me off list I will give you his direct line number.

You not only have to read the story but you have to ask yourself just what did the customer ask for.
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I can look at it from whichever side, it just doesn't add up. 11 years, come on! If I'm the customer, I don't let my car at a garage for 11 years and if I am a garage owner, I don't allow a customer's car there for 11 years. You will have to agree that something just doesn't seem right.
 
Having worked at a garage where the garage owner has had "long term projects"
It doesn't happen all at once, it happens a week at a time. The car gets disabled,
the owner can't get it moved because it is disabled. The garage owner gets other
work that pays now, this car slips down the priority list. I am not condoning this,
but I can understand how it happens. There is more to this than is immediately
apparent, there will be "views" from both sides.
 
I think we should be careful - doesn't this come under the category "Please do not post negative supplier / product reviews,"

I don't know Reg Mason but think he should have his say .Lots of people criticise work that's been done simply because they want a bit off the invoice
 
"I agree with Dave" as they say on the TV debates.

I'm reluctant to take Mark Gray up on his offer for both sides of the story, likewise to invite Reg to make a response personally.

Having had large amounts of professional work done on P6's, I can advise that "many thousands" is definitely woefully inadequate to properly professionally restore a P6! Likewise it takes considerable input and regular visits from the customer to produce a result that both parties are happy with. Reg has a pretty good reputation from what I've heard, so my inclination is to suggest that this is likely to be another failure of communication issue.

Accordingly, unless I receive pm's to the contrary in the next couple of days, I shall be deleting this topic on Friday afternoon.

Chris
 
Hi Chris
I wouldn't delete this topic because it does hi-light that their is definitely two sides to every story and in this case I know both sides and personally know the car.

I know the reasons why the car stayed in the workshop for eleven years but none of that information should be for public debate as it is between the customer and the proprietor of the business. That said the remarks made in the auction of the car on ebay could prossibly be considered to be libelous.
That said, at Reg's request not the customers, a couple of days after the car was removed from the ebay auction, it was back at Reg's workshop, with the owner. More a matter of professional pride rather than trading standards requirements, I would like to add.

The problem with long term projects is that the vision at the start can change during the project and doesn't always stay the same and finally, might not always coincide with the on-going work or indeed what the finished item is.

Anyway, as I said before, anyone who would like to know more, can contact me off list where I will furnish them with Reg's direct line phone number, for his side of the story!

For that reason alone, this thread should NOT be deleted.
 
I just got rid of a car today after nearly five years of being messed about by the owner. What a relief :D
Now to start on the next sitting tennants eviction :wink:

As I said earlier, I don't know about this particular issue but they are rarely clear cut :)
 
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