HOW MUCH!!! Prototype V8?

harveyp6

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#21
The P6 convertible is probably worth around the £30-40k mark. Older restoration, but has had work completed over the years
The white one with the blue(IIRC) hood?




And I do believe that's the owner standing behind it. He will be pleased.
 
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chrisw

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#22
Yeah, he's got several classics, and a couple of P6s too.

Work has been done on the car, including to correct a bowing from a previous dodgy repair down one side.

I think that if I had a choice, it would probably be the P6 racer, or the Rover TCZ. Both over the £100k mark.
 
#24
Or the GTS (Gladys) of David Bache.
Its a shame that the bumper iron rubbers were not fitted during restoreation of the convertible, sorry once a concours judge your attention is drawn to features!
 

ghce

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#25
Or the GTS (Gladys) of David Bache.
Its a shame that the bumper iron rubbers were not fitted during restoreation of the convertible, sorry once a concours judge your attention is drawn to features!
Dammit, I didnt notice that 'till you mentioned it!


Graeme
 

chrisw

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#26
Or the GTS (Gladys) of David Bache.
Its a shame that the bumper iron rubbers were not fitted during restoreation of the convertible, sorry once a concours judge your attention is drawn to features!
Yeah, except that Gladys needs a full restoration. The interior is still perfect, but everything else hasn't been touched in about 30 years.

I'd say around £20-30k in its current state, but would need a specialist buyer, and someone with deep pockets to restore her.
 
#28
I think for me and I was to buy a prototype for this sort of money, it would have to be something special. This car is interesting and I am sure has a fantastic history, but at the end of the day, it looks like any other P6. In a show you would walk right past it. Now if it were a Graber coupe, or a factory convertible, or an original slanty nose gas turbine car, then I see the value. Not for this one though I am afraid. It just isn't different enough for me to be worth so much more than a standard production model.
I agree based on the description of who's selling it.. I've send so many e-mails on it its not funny anymore.

The thing about this car is that it takes a lot of knowledge of P6Bs in order to spot the differences as they aren't so plain and obvious. Nor was it designed to be, it was designed to be as anonymous as possible because it was built in 1966 with a V8. But if you really think about it, the changes are enormous. The grille is bespoke and unlike any production item with closed off slats. The front valance is unique and matches what is on JXC822D. The kicker with this car is without a doubt it's engine. It is quite possibly the oldest Rover V8 (impossible to prove, there's no records of castings or EXP-engine numbers) but the number and cast date are well prior P5B production. John Eales did a full, no expense spared rebuild with top hatted liners. Not hot rodded but incredibly smooth and good for many years.

The original Buick engine that was fitted in 1966 survives too, albeit in a 1970 Talago badged base unit.

In any case there's a book with the car with all the pictures from BMIHT and a detailed history. Any interior and exterior choices are confirmed by those. Except for an outside temperature probe which required a nasty bracket and hole in the bootlid, so I omitted that.

It being for sale for as long as it has I personally attribute to a couple things. I swapped over continents in 2018 and chose to go with a dealership in London to market the car. I can't be hands-on, the across the pond thing being quite inhibitive. Second, and thirdly, brexit and coronavirus haven't been kind to any market in the UK. I think before all of that the market, interest and community around the P6 were heading in a good and positive direction and I think possibly the combination of Brexit and Coronavirus has nipped that in the butt.

Now what? No idea, I might have it put on a boat and keep it. It might have to sell for way less, I don't really care. From an investment point of view or making money it's a stupid endeavour anyway because there's a thing called Tesla stock. Had I put the money in that in 2014-2017 and just left the car to rot, I'd be much better off.

The asking price based on money invested comes close, actually. Painfully close.
 
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keynsham1

Active Member
#30
I do love the Graber cars and would happily pay a lot for a properly fully restored one. The T4 is an oddity as is the racers so are worth anything you want!! I am afraid the convertible just doesn't do it for me though. I don't think the car lends itself to being a convertible so I don't think I would want it even if it were cheap!! Just personal references I guess!!
 

chrisw

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#32
And another one turns up in PC mag.
Yeah, that's another of the survivors. The current owner has had her for a few years ago, and it's had varying amounts of work done on her.

There are three survivors. The one for sale having undergone a full restoration. The one in the PC magazine, which is undergoing a partial restoration to make her roadworthy, and the P6 racer.
 
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