Floppy Gear Lever

[kees66]

Mine car is from 1974, but on the road first time in 1976.

regards

 

[BrianMac123]

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You mean that picture i send? for the P5.

Here is a company selling a kind of plastic that is very very strong and do damp resonances.

I buy a rond bar and make one with the lathe.

regards

Show me what you make kees. I have a block of super strong Nylon, maybe I can do the same.

 

[johnsimister]

Wins did not sell them. say you are wrong.

We do not sell guy was incorrect.
i have not got time to answer all your e-mails

A Little annoyed about mine mails haha.

Wel as we al now, classic lovers have never two left hands,'

Itt will be go right later on.

Mine came from Wins. It was one of a trial batch. If he got good reports about the first few, Geoff said he would put them on the website. He got a good report from me but seems he didn't go ahead with the project.

 

[kees66]

Show me what you make kees. I have a block of super strong Nylon, maybe I can do the same.

Yes I let you now how I did it. making a sphere on a lathe is challenging, but is a small
one who maybe can be just round, so more surface and as result less wear, it as two parts
for fitting.

I never see this part how does this looks?

 

[johnsimister]

Yes I let you now how I did it. making a sphere on a lathe is challenging, but is a small
one who maybe can be just round, so more surface and as result less wear, it as two parts
for fitting.

I never see this part how does this looks?

Very much like the black plastic tip on this 'early' (how early?) part sold by JR Wadhams. It needs to be cylindrical rather than spherical, to make better contact with the notches in the selector rails. I have to say that the JRW finger looks like the one in my 1972 car, so maybe 'early' is pre-1973 or thereabouts.

JRW also sells an all-metal finger.

 

[Vern Klukas]

Whadhams sells both styles The metal end style is pinned to the shaft and is used with the gearbox extension plate set up. The plastic tipped style is used with the earlier remote style gearchange and has gripping splines and is clamped with a bolt. They are not interchangable. Note that if you make a metal tipped version of the plastic tipped style, you will be plagued with a pretty significant sizzle noise. We solved that by putting a groove in for an o-ring that was .010” proud of the tip, but the sharp edges of the gearbox selector slots + the swelling from the oil bath typical at the end of a P6 gearbox meant the o-ring wouldn’t last. So we abandoned making them after we’d fixed a half dozen cars or so.

Yours
Vern

 

[kees66]

Yes Vern, you are possible right, seen the slot, it can maybe be cylindrical. and has then
also more touch area who is better.

The spherical part I have ordered, and is for gear lever, the ball has also a new part.

 

[kees66]

Whadhams sells both styles The metal end style is pinned to the shaft and is used with the gearbox extension plate set up. The plastic tipped style is used with the earlier remote style gearchange and has gripping splines and is clamped with a bolt. They are not interchangable. Note that if you make a metal tipped version of the plastic tipped style, you will be plagued with a pretty significant sizzle noise. We solved that by putting a groove in for an o-ring that was .010” proud of the tip, but the sharp edges of the gearbox selector slots + the swelling from the oil bath typical at the end of a P6 gearbox meant the o-ring wouldn’t last. So we abandoned making them after we’d fixed a half dozen cars or so.

Yours
Vern

For me I like to see pics what you mean.

I have a rover from 1976, made in Belgium factory.

I have a gear lever without the metal sphere but did order a plastic one including
the bearing for the ball on that gear lever.

For people with a metal sphere, maybe you can use very strong modern plastic ring
or wider stronger rubber when use a lathe to make the slot in the metal spere.

regards

 

[Vern Klukas]

The LH pic is the plastic tipped version. The RH is the steel tipped version. I assume the late model gearshift mountings suppressed any sizzle or buzz from that.

 

[colnerov]

One is smooth bore, the other is splined, so that should dictate.

 

[kees66]

The LH pic is the plastic tipped version. The RH is the steel tipped version. I assume the late model gearshift mountings suppressed any sizzle or buzz from that.

Oke thanks.

I have the late LH drive for Holland.

Have the plastic tipped version a thread? It's maybe a idea to make mine also that way
in stead of it is pushed on.

oké it is cylindrical, so that is not a problem with the lathe. I can do make a thread on the
gear lever pin, and also thread into the plastic, and screw it on.

picture example is from a donor gearbox.

 

[Vern Klukas]

One is smooth bore, the other is splined, so that should dictate.

The splines are for gripping, so that type will work on the later cars but I’m not sure if you could adjust it in the car, the gearchange extension plate might get in the way. The smooth bore version will not work on earlier cars as there is no notch on the selector shaft for the pin to go through.

Yours
Vern

 

[BrianMac123]

The LH pic is the plastic tipped version. The RH is the steel tipped version. I assume the late model gearshift mountings suppressed any sizzle or buzz from that.

Vern, mine is a late car, and I just fitted (the mechanic did actually) the one on the right. Perhaps my gearbox was changed or something, but he insists there's a cap missing!

 

[Vern Klukas]

I was under the impression that the late model cars all had the steel tip. But being here in Canada I have no direct experience with any of the series 2 cars. And Kees picture proves that the pinned style with a plastic type was used on at least some of those cars.

Yours
Vern

 

[sdibbers]

I replaced the plastic finger tip with a turned bronze part. A little buzzing in some circumstances, but a much better shift quality. Almost feels like a short shifter with that and the other bushings replaced on a SI box.

 

[BrianMac123]

Steve what's the OD on your bronze cap? I'll get one made asap!

 

[sdibbers]

Steve what's the OD on your bronze cap? I'll get one made asap!

I measured the slots in the shift rods on the gearbox and turned to size with a little room. I can’t recall what that was now.