Find your P6's base unit number:

rockdemon said:
on mgbs and triumphs reshelling is common isnt it?

if you could buy a new base unit would that be better or worse than reshelling around a ringed base unit?

For me conceptually the problem is 1, honesty and 2, legality. The actual operation itself is fine but should be documented, and this silly tax situation needs sorting once and for all.

In terms of legality, the big issue is that you can't get new base units, the MG's get away with it as they are brand new shells, so that's classed the same as a factory re-shell say after a major accident.

The DVLA require either the original base unit (shell), or a brand new one with supporting documentation, otherwise you're looking at an IVA and a Q plate.

So legally, yes a new base unit would be better than reshelling into a ringed base unit.

Most of these "ringers" that I've seen, aren't re-shells of tax exempt cars though, they're non-exempt cars with exempt chassis numbers stuck on. They often leave the newer engine / gearbox / diff / interior / body panels etc..

I would be a lot more sympathetic to somebody simply taking a bare, used, base unit and transferring all the parts from their rotten tax exempt vehicle.
 
campingstoveman said:
Amazing how things crop up, my Brother and I found that number last weekend whilst assessing the repair to the boot floor and wondered what it was for.

Nick, if ok will be calling on you sometime Friday afternoon to collect boot floor as arranged.


Martin P

No worries. Thanks Martin.
 
webmaster said:
In terms of legality, the big issue is that you can't get new base units, the MG's get away with it as they are brand new shells, so that's classed the same as a factory re-shell say after a major accident.

The DVLA require either the original base unit (shell), or a brand new one with supporting documentation, otherwise you're looking at an IVA and a Q plate.

So legally, yes a new base unit would be better than reshelling into a ringed base unit.

Most of these "ringers" that I've seen, aren't re-shells of tax exempt cars though, they're non-exempt cars with exempt chassis numbers stuck on. They often leave the newer engine / gearbox / diff / interior / body panels etc..

I would be a lot more sympathetic to somebody simply taking a bare, used, base unit and transferring all the parts from their rotten tax exempt vehicle.

Amen, brother Taylor :)
 
Hi all. Sorry for reopening an ancient thread. New to P6 ownership. I have just bought an S1 V8. Body number is 635, chassis 649 so fairly close. Thing is the skeleton looks totally shot. Would want to reshell and keep all original S1 bits Inc identity. Can it be done legally?
 
If you can find a brand new base unit you can use it to reshell (for the want of a better word) your car legally, if you find a good used one then you can't.
 
Interesting read.
I just went and found my base unit number, under a piece of black cloth tape and totally mint with original paint on it.
Cant find a chassis number under the rear decker panel though, where is that please ?
 
On my car there's a number on the top of the passenger side front inner wing, and the same number down by the boot lock under the carpet on the left.
 
Ah thanks
My chassis number at the front is not the same as the one in the boot.
As per post #18 I cannot see a chassis number under the rear decker panel.
 
The chassis number under the decker panel seemed to appear on the 74 model year cars when the chassis number was stamped on the front inner wing instead of the earlier spot welded tag type.
 
Thanks Clive
With mine being a two owner car, stored off road from 1984 until I got it in 2016 its a good example of an original numbers car. I am happy there is no number under the decker panel to find.
 
There is another number stamped in the same place but toward the centre buried under the paint. From memory they don't match.
 
I have a 1976 rover P6B with a eng # attached on front near side wing next to a # HP2125576 which is ??????? plus a body number on the inner boot lip - what is the HP number.
 
Hi, Whereabouts on the boot inner lip? One is the chassis number repeat from the front, the other is the body number and is considered for Rover internal records only and no relation to the chassis number.

Colin
 
As Colin says, the base unit number has no relationship to the chassis number. Each base unit type were number consecutively throughout the P6's run, while chassis numbers had many serial number sequences, one for each subtype (the first three numbers of the chassis number, generally 4xx).

The four base unit types were manual 4 cyl, auto 4 cyl, manual V8 & auto V8.

Yours
Vern
 
Hi, Whereabouts on the boot inner lip? One is the chassis number repeat from the front, the other is the body number and is considered for Rover internal records only and no relation to the chassis number.

Colin
Hi,
The number on the boot lower inner lip is by the spare wheel position.
Cheers
 
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