Crankshaft pulley arrangements

Ron,
Sorry, I missed the distinction between the pressure relief and filter bypass.....As long as there IS a filter bypass somewhere in the system all should work, shouldnt it? If we are doing oil changes at fiarly frequent intervals we shouldnt get the filter bypass activating , shouldnt we?
Is there any reason a P6B pump cover wont fit an SD1 timing cover????

No worries JP. The filters that fit the P6B oil pump front cover do not have filter bypass valves, as the valve is within the front cover. The frequency of oil changes and the bypass valve activating are not always connected. The relationship between the bypass valve and filter is a binary comparative function. When the engine is cold or in cold weather, if the force required to push the oil through the filter is greater than the force required to open the bypass valve, then the oil will circulate without going through the filter, so the engine will receive unfiltered oil. When the viscosity of the oil begins to decrease through increasing temperature and the force to open the bypass valve is then less than required to push oil though the filter, the bypass value will remain closed and the engine will receive filtered oil. On engines that do not receive regular oil and filter changes, the potential for increased resistance within the filter due to accumulation of particulate matter is very real. In this circumstance, the probability of the engine receiving unfiltered oil on a more regular basis cannot be dismissed.

The P6B oil pump front cover will bolt straight up to an SD1 timing cover, or indeed any of the later covers that do not have a crankshaft driven oil pump. The footprint is exactly the same, so you have no worries there. I have an SD1 timing cover on my 4.6 running with a P6B oil pump front cover.

Ron.
 
Here in Aus there is a third option.... P76 front cover which was the first with the longer gears and has a lip type seal. From memory the end cover varied depending on application as the engine was sold for trucks and marine use as well as the cars.

The filter bypass is a form of pressure relief valve, across the filter element only. Consequently at high engine RPM and a cold engine it will open to prevent the filter material disintergrating. However they normally have a fine gauze strainer in the line to protect the engine.
M
 
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Andrew, yes, that is a P6B oil pump front cover, and with your new cover you will be flying in no time!

Ron.
That’s reassuring, thank you! The cover and gears were sold as an uprated option. Not quite sure what the uprating is but I’m happy with standard spec. Any bear traps to avoid when fitting it all together? I’m going to need to swap the bottom dizzy drive over to P6b spec too but I think I can sort this out after fitting the cover?
 
Here in Aus there is a third option.... P76 front cover which was the first with the longer gears and has a lip type seal. From memory the end cover varied depending on application as the engine was sold for trucks and marine use as well as the cars.

The filter bypass is a form of pressure relief valve, across the filter element only. Consequently at high engine RPM and a cold engine it will open to prevent the filter material disintergrating. However they normally have a fine gauze strainer in the line to protect the engine.
M

Hi Mike,

In the P6B oil pump front cover, there is a gauze strainer, but it is over the pressure relief valve port, which is distinct from the filter bypass valve which has no protection at all.

I wasn't aware that the V8 P76 timing cover fitted onto the Rover engine. Is the water pump footprint the same as the P6B or does it require a P76 pump?

Ron.
 
Ron, further on this topic a bit - Fitting an SD1 timing cover (for the bigger oil pump gears) to the 3.9 engine - can I fit an original P6B harmonic to the crank OK? The crank nose has the longer keyway groove, but its the same length crank nose as P6B.
thanks
 
Ron, further on this topic a bit - Fitting an SD1 timing cover (for the bigger oil pump gears) to the 3.9 engine - can I fit an original P6B harmonic to the crank OK? The crank nose has the longer keyway groove, but its the same length crank nose as P6B.
thanks

Yes you can JP, no problem at all.

Ron.
 
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