Brigade Red Paint

jamesdean2112

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Hi guys

Does anyone have a paint code for Brigade red paint to to be used on my 1970 Three Thousand Five. Need to look into getting some mixed very soon.

thanks
 
Noooo! Wear your tobacco with pride young man! Red is the restorers cliché.

P.S. There is no truth in the rumour from next year all tobacco P6s will need to be driven in a plain cardboard carton.
 
PeterZRH said:
P.S. There is no truth in the rumour from next year all tobacco P6s will need to be driven in a plain cardboard carton.


Quite so, no truth at all just a case of Chinese Whispers, the real oil is that the cardboard box treatment will only be for ALMOND coloured cars and SKODAS.

Hey don't shoot the messenger

Graeme
 
Nooooo! I have sold my almond P6b, but I have a Skoda Yeti as my daily, am I eternally doomed to be a pariah? :shock:
 
There is a phrase for everything becoming red after restoration: the restoration red-shift.

Great colour though I must say.

And I loved my Skoda Fabia vRS. Still the best car I've ever owned by miles (and my current one's a mark 6 diesel Golf).
 
ETR "Ethel" 290L was red-shifted from Mexico brown when she was restored in 1990.

She is about to be resprayed - I have ummed and ahhed about this and have come to the conclusion that the restoration was done to such a high standard and seeing that all the books and magazines show Ethel as a red car, she's staying red.

Monza red to be precise.

BPH "Helga" 970H on the other hand was resprayed (or sprayed over) in P5 blue - this car will be restored to tobacco leaf in due course.

The worst thing about red is not the cliché aspect - it fades much faster than just about any other colour.
 
My parents had a Vauxhall Astra in a fetching shade of pink on top and a curious orange colour on the side. It was barely 2 years old. It would polish out to a degree and if you didn't wax it weekly it would be as bad as before in a few months. Most modern cars use base and clear to keep the combination of UV and surface chemicals off it - even Vauxhall now. However this would look totally ridiculous on a classic, like it had been wrapped in cling-film.

I'd bet it's very rare as an original colour on P6s given the reputation red had and the conservative Rover buyer of the time.
 
PeterZRH said:
I'd bet it's very rare as an original colour on P6s given the reputation red had and the conservative Rover buyer of the time.

My Rover as per my signature picture is probably 80% original factory paint and in red too however the car has been garaged when not in use for most of its life and rarely sees more than water and brush for paint maintenance.
If not garaged I am sure the fading and oxidation would be extreme after 39 years and 11 months of age, given it's age the paint is still very presentable.
Over the years I have had so many positive comments on the colour I can well understand the Red Shift effect.

PS I had a skoda 110 LS back in the late 70's, the only car I have worked on that makes a VW bettle look over engineered and salubrious.


Graeme
 
I can well understand the Red Shift effect.

So can I. Similarly I wouldn't repaint an MGB Harvest Gold at my own expense or many of the other BL colours of the 1970s. Problem is you end up with everything the same and also totally out of context with the time. Typically for sports cars this is also applies to BRG as well. However look at any film of the early 60s and you'll see white and pastel colours. Red and dark green was more apparent from the late 60s into the 1970s, but there was an awful lot of limeflower, harvest gold and the fabulous black tulip as well. To me these really represent the period and are becoming a bit lost over time.

Don't get me wrong I'm no purest (although I'm tending more towards that as these cars become less common than they were), but it just seems a bit sad.
 
Ethel went over some ice on the A6 between Kendal and Shap back in 2007 and was badly gouged all along the nearside by the crash barrier - the centre caps were sheered clean off the wheels.

I had to buy a 2200TC to scrap for panels.

Tom of Lake View got the colour match perfect but he used a different kind of paint than was used back in 1990.

As a result, Tom's paintwork doesn't fade but the 'original' 1990 paint tends to go off very quickly after being polished and waxed and the old paint reacts with the rain to leave a powdery residue on the surface and those of you who know me personally will know what a lazy slob I can be when it comes to cleaning my cars, so Ethel looks odd most of the time.

The bonnet and the nearside are Tom's work, the rest done by Richard Jacob in 1990/1.
 
Hi is the paint code the load of numbers printed on the label under the bonnet that has brigade red on.
My be a stupid question but rosie has the orginal sticker on her wing. It has brigade red and numbers under it.
Regards
Marcus
 
marcus/rosie wrote,...
is the paint code the load of numbers printed on the label under the bonnet that has brigade red on.
May be a stupid question but rosie has the original sticker on her wing. It has brigade red and numbers under it.

That is the one Marcus :wink: you have the answer that James has been after!

Ron.
 
PeterZRH said:
I'd bet it's very rare as an original colour on P6s given the reputation red had and the conservative Rover buyer of the time.

I'd probably agree, although my '70 3500 was Brigade Red from the factory (and still is now :D )


ghce said:
PS I had a skoda 110 LS back in the late 70's, the only car I have worked on that makes a VW bettle look over engineered and salubrious.


Graeme

You have to be joking, right? :LOL:

I'd say the Beetle makes the P6 look under-engineered. P6 is more salubrious, not to mention faster, smoother and quieter. But the quality of castings, pressings and even materials (given a lower price) are in another league. :)
 
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