Brake hoses

redrover

redrover

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Chaps,

Does anyone know what the length, diameter and type of union are for the flexible brake hoses for a Girling setup 2000 TC? I need to know them for all four wheels.

A bloke I know can make Goodridge style braided hoses up and he needs to know the exact dimensions, but my car has to be on the road for the next few weeks so I can't take them off to show him!!

Cheers,
Michael
 
Hello Michael,

I would go to a wrecker and remove a set off a car, then supply those and allow the brake hose man to take his own measurements. In that way he is completely responsible should the hoses he makes for you not fit.

Ron.
 
Goodridge brake hose kits

Cheers guys,

As it happens, he can only bike style hoses with banjo fittings, so I will need a ready made kit anyway!!

Does anybody know why the Goodridge 2000 TC kit has only got 3 hoses but the 3500 has 4?
Is the 3-line kit to fit the Dunlop setup? I have Girling brakes and want to replace all of the lines (including the rear caliper-to-caliper hose), so is there any reason why the 3500 kit wouldn't fit a '72 TC?
The unions on the front calipers are the same aren't they??

Thanks,
Michael
 
The brake hoses are the same on all the cars though not sure of the Dunlop set-up. IIRC the only difference in the brake system between them (bar the servo boost rate?) is the 3-pot front calipers on the V8's. There should be four hoses & I've seen that 3 hose anomaly myself a while back while comparing prices.
 
The Rovering Member said:
There should be four hoses & I've seen that 3 hose anomaly myself a while back while comparing prices.
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And, IIRC, the set you finally bought had an incorrect hose for between the rear calipers, so that's another thing to look out for.
 
Yes, that was a Goodrich set too though they were the ones for Bruiser. Other forumers sets have been ok though so it may have been a one-off.
I saw the three hose sets advertised while looking for a set for the aircon car. I mentioned it to you didn't I Harvey?
 
The Rovering Member said:
IIRC the only difference in the brake system between them (bar the servo boost rate?) is the 3-pot front calipers on the V8's
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I thought that myself. I also noticed that JRW and Wins both list hoses as 'Girling front', so I assume they must be the same, as they both usually list 2000 and 3500 parts separately.

That said, have just had a quick perusal through the trusty old Ken Ball manual and found the diagram of the Dunlop system. Turns out the Dunlop rears only need one flexi hose at the back to go from body to caliper, as the caliper-to-caliper link is made from a solid cooper line called a 'bridge pipe' (item 6 page 93 if anyone's interested).

Have called K300, the main goodridge supplier on t'interet and asked them if the kit really does just have 3 pipes.
If so, I think we may have found our problem.... what they call '2000 TC' hoses are incorrectly labelled kits for 63-66 Dunlop cars. And so presumably 'P6 3500 V8 saloon and coupe' (whatever a P6 coupe looks like... :roll: ) is the kit for all Girling cars '66 onwards.

Can anyone vouch for this?? I've got no experience of Dunlop cars myself. Might be worth passing the info onto Goodridge (or just making this post sticky for future reference!! As long as we know what we're buying, eh..!)

Michael
 
From Ken Ball himself:

"The Dunlop brakes have separate friction pads and operating gear which swings from the fixed caliper and footbrake housing."

Here's a pic of the diagarm in the book too. Sorry it's not a very good photo (and it's rotated!), but you can see the copper brake line on the bottom right. It's labelled as 'caliper bridge pipe' in the list.
 

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I saw the three hose sets advertised while looking for a set for the aircon car. I mentioned it to you didn't I Harvey?
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Possibly, but I don't remember you doing so, but then again, I have been to sleep several times since then, and that tends to wipe the slate clean....
 
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Are the Dunlop calipers fixed then, rather than swinging? I've never looked at them never having had a Dunlop car.
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Yes the footbrake calipers are a fixed caliper body with a piston unit bolted on each side, and the handbrake pads are swung off of the main caliper. The same set-up as Jags of the era.
 
On the face of it a much more promising arramgement than the Girling! So much so that I have bought a Dunlop set up complete on the diff, to transplant onto Lucky next time his Girling calipers give trouble. One look inside the pad adjustment mechanism was enough for me - OK in a Swiss watch, not OK in a car environment! There are potentailly other advantages too. The pads have a greater swept area and you can change the cylinders for the next size up. You can also get Green Stuff kevlar pads for these calipers which you can't for the Girling. I have heard rumour of problems with the hand brake mechanism - but it doesn't affect the footbrake as it does on a Girling and apparently the E Type fraternity (with which it is common) have a mod that sddresses it.

I can confirm that the Dulops do have a fixed connector pipe,

Chris
 
Right. Just bought a set of Goodridge braided hoses for a "P6 3500 V8 sal & coupe", and can confirm that they do indeed fit my 2000 TC (and therefore all cars with the Girling setup). There are 4 hoses: 2x 14 inch for the fronts, 1x 12 inch for the rear body to caliper, and 1x 9 inch (all approx of course!) for the rear caliper-to-caliper.

Presumably, the 3-hose set which Goodridge labels as "2000 TC" is for pre-'66-ish 2000's (SC manual) with the Dunlop setup.
 
Hi all

Can somebody tell me if these hoses do fit mine 3500S? it tells 3500TC from 68 to 77.

thanks.
 

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harveyp6 said:
Would you want to buy something with a poor and incomplete description, from a seller that can't be contacted?
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I can only call them, but I am in the netherlands and mine english speech is not that well.

I have order parts from them who are on the way now, but not the hoses because of unclear info,
I do not now about a rover P6 3500TC.
 
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