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Richard Moss

Richard Moss

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This is going to replace my Chevrolet Lumina Coupe (Vauxhall/Holden Monaro) in the next few days. It's a 1996 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4L manual. I'm doing a straight swap for the Lumina - the garage that have the Jeep are going to fit a replacement engine (this one is smoky) and a new clutch as well as give it a full service. The Lumina is going to be the personal transport of the chap who runs the place, he practically begged me to sell it to him! He gets his "sporty" coupe and I get a relatively lightweight off-roader with better performance than my Grand Cherokee ZJ automatic. Overall, it's a deal which suits everyone.

The only downside that I can see at the moment is the rather United Nations paint scheme.

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Unusual swap, Holden Monaro for a Jeep.

Those jeeps are worth approx $0.02 here, while Monaros are still holding their value somewhat, especially if Holden wins bathurst tomorrow. :LOL:
 
Ditto for here in NZ, though here in NZ with the removal of the lower denomination coins you could get 5 times that value as 10 cents is as small as we go in physical tradeable currency.
Personally I think that the trade seems to be of equal value though I dont think I would part with 10 cents for either of the those vehicles :LOL: unless some one were to give the 10 cents and the both cars :roll: well maybe not I still would feel I had the short end of the trade.

Graeme
 
Have to agree. Seems like the garage owner is getting a fantastic deal. In NZ those old Cherokees are worth between nothing and $5K, most of them sitting around the $3000 mark but Holden Monaros start at about $20,000 and go up and up. I'm not a fan of the Jeeps, unbelievably cramped for a vehicle of that size and not terribly reliable from what i've heard. Still, whatever floats your boat I guess. :?
 
For driving up sand dunes in the middle east a Jeep is going to outperform a Holden ;)
 
And you get an excuse to wear a fetching pale blue beret if you drive a white one........ :LOL:


John.
 
But what will it look like next to all those Q5'S 7's Merc BMW Volvo (phewy) SUV's

Graeme
 
Value wise, there is nothing to choose between an XJ Cherokee and a Monaro in the UAE markets. Cherokees ae highly regarded for their offroad prowess, especially those with a manual transmission, whilst Luminas (Commodore/Monaro) are just common or garden transport. I am actually getting a good deal. Interestingly, on http://www.jeep.com they had the same concerns but not all markets are the same

Local buyers here treat all on-road vehicles the same and for the image conscious emiratis, the vehicles age and size are the most important features. To give you an idea, a Corvette C4 is worth half the money here that it would be worth in the UK or USA - and unlike the antipodes, Holden products just don't hold their value because they have little or no "image". I am actively considering a Corvette C4 now, too - at about £4000 fr a dent one, it is very tempting.

Trust me, this is my 3rd Jeep and I am not getting screwed on the price. The seller is a reliable 4x4 specialist, friend and fellow off-road club member. Both the Lumina and the Jeep have resale values of about £2500 here. Over the next couple of years, the Lumina will lose anoher 25% of its value and then bottom out. The Jeep will hold evey penn of what i is worth now.

I do, infact have a blue beret already, but it's the darker blue one that I had when in the RAF :D
 
By the way, pretty much the only kit that ever goes off road here is Jeep Cherokee/Wrangler/Grand Cherokee,Toyota Landcruiser or Nissan Patrol? One or two people use Landrovers or Pajeros but those people are not the serious offroaders and their vehicles are just not up tonanything really challenging, just gentle "family trips"
 
Certainly agree on the Toymotor landcruisers and Nissan Patrols, I used to use them extensivly/daily in my job as real off road vehicles, nothing else came close for serious off roading.

Graeme
 
I'll tell you one thing: if this was a RHD market, I would set up a business exporting Luminas to Oz and NZ and make a few $
 
Hi, Richard I suppose it depends what you call serious off roading. In the Middle East off roading
seems to consist of taking soft sanded rolling dunes at speed on wide tyres for flotation. In the
UK it is driving through wet sticky mud and/or sand. In the US it seems to be Rock climbing and
hard sanded desert floor, again at speed. In Aus and NZ it is, well, I am not sure what it is, I am
willing to be educated. So it seems to be different vehicle for different courses. No one vehicle
being better than another, just popular local preference and aftermarket kit availiability.

Colin
 
I agree with that. In the UK the axle articulation of the Land Rover family wins out. In desert terrain the reliability of the NIssan/Toyota. In the UK the latter two are simply an embarrasment.

Chris
 
NZ has the full gamut of environs from mountain passes, snow, river crossing, mud, grass though no desert lol and I had occasion on a daily weekly monthly and yearly basis to do all of them as most of my work involved remote hilltop radio stations which were as like as not having no road access or snowed in access.
When you couldnt get there by 4wd you helicoptered in or as last resort backpack.


Graeme
 
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