windscreen seals

DENNIS METCALFE

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Hi all, I am finally putting car back together after fully restoring it, has anyone refitted front and rear screens using Wins seals. they do not fit, the windscreen channel is 1" wide and seal is only 5/8" there is no way it would seal and they are not shape of screens. It looks like another waste of good money anybody any recommendations. thanks Dennis
 
Hi all, I am finally putting car back together after fully restoring it, has anyone refitted front and rear screens using Wins seals. they do not fit, the windscreen channel is 1" wide and seal is only 5/8" there is no way it would seal and they are not shape of screens. It looks like another waste of good money anybody any recommendations. thanks Dennis
Hi Dennis , I am also a new member with my first P6 . In the short time I have been buying spares I have been appalled at the quality of replacement parts . My last purchase was for a simple set of ignition leads from a P6 specialist. They did not fit !!. The cap end terminals were straight instead of angled . One of the leads was miles too long and the coil lead was close , only 7 inches too long . Why can’t a Rover specialist source or have a set made up that are the same as original equipment ? To quote Dennis “ another waste of good money “
 
across many different makes/models of car its very often said Scotts rubbers are are the best repro rubbers you can buy
 
Hi Dennis , I am also a new member with my first P6 . In the short time I have been buying spares I have been appalled at the quality of replacement parts . My last purchase was for a simple set of ignition leads from a P6 specialist. They did not fit !!. The cap end terminals were straight instead of angled . One of the leads was miles too long and the coil lead was close , only 7 inches too long . Why can’t a Rover specialist source or have a set made up that are the same as original equipment ? To quote Dennis “ another waste of good money “
I agree I am restoreing car and products that don't fit seals diss cap even electronic ignition, thanks for info.Dennis
across many different makes/models of car its very often said Scotts rubbers are are the best repro rubbers you can buy
thanks have sent them email,Dennis
 
Hi Dennis , I am also a new member with my first P6 . In the short time I have been buying spares I have been appalled at the quality of replacement parts . My last purchase was for a simple set of ignition leads from a P6 specialist. They did not fit !!. The cap end terminals were straight instead of angled . One of the leads was miles too long and the coil lead was close , only 7 inches too long . Why can’t a Rover specialist source or have a set made up that are the same as original equipment ? To quote Dennis “ another waste of good money “

Straight rather than angled is totally appropriate, depending on which model of P6 you're talking about. Same deal on the coil lead.

Not that I'm saying the set was correct, just that's plausible it was not incorrect.

Yours
Vern
 
Hi all, I am finally putting car back together after fully restoring it, has anyone refitted front and rear screens using Wins seals. they do not fit, the windscreen channel is 1" wide and seal is only 5/8" there is no way it would seal and they are not shape of screens. It looks like another waste of good money anybody any recommendations. thanks Dennis
Hi Dennis you can get a sealant that will go between the rubber and and screen. Also I always use Power Spark for my leads and electric stuff
never had a problem they can make leads to measure and even ask what colour you want, plus super fast postage.
If your windscreen rubber is that out I would send it back.
 
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Straight rather than angled is totally appropriate, depending on which model of P6 you're talking about. Same deal on the coil lead.

Not that I'm saying the set was correct, just that's plausible it was not incorrect.

Yours
Vern
Vern , I take your point and fully agree there are many variants , but when you are asked what vehicle it is for and where is the coil lead is , by a Rover P6 Specialist and it is still wrong what hope is there .
 
Hi Dennis you can get a sealant that will go between the rubber and and screen. Also I always use Power Spark for my leads and electric stuff
never had a problem they can make leads to measure and even ask what colour you want, plus super fast postage.
If your windscreen rubber is that out I would send it back.

You don't want to use a sealant on P6 screen seals. They're not designed for it.
 
That's not correct, both front & rear screen use sealants. However, it has to the old butyl rubber non-hardening type, not the modern polyurethane types that cure solid.

Yours
Vern
 
You don't want to use a sealant on P6 screen seals. They're not designed for it.
Screen Seal is the name should stay soft it is what professional windscreen fitters use I should have said not normal sealant.
apologises to mislead, also have gloves on this stuff it is more nasty than your mother in law :D and you only need a very very small bead inside the rubber.
You can also fit the screen without sealant if you wish or fit the screen upside down its just a suggestion
 
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I have just fitted both screens recently, the rear one last weekend. The front screen was very easy. Applied mastic to the outer inside corner of the frame (as per the manual), coated the rubber with lubricant and slide it in with the help of my son. Prior to this I applied mastic to the inside of the rubber where the glass seats.

The rear screen was a real piece of work!!. Applying the mastic in the same way as the front was PITA as it kept "drooping and falling off in places. The real difficult part was getting the rubber over the chrome trim evenly and then raising the screen far enough to get the screw jack arrangement engaged correctly. A far amount of upward pressure and flat hand slapping was required for this.

But in the end both look really good and I pleased with he result.

The rubbers were from JA Wadhams and have preformed corners. The front was very good but one side of the rear was not quite formed enough on the inside and doesn't fit against the glass very well. I'll put a small bit of glue on this if it doesn't settle. Mastic sealer was "Bison Windscreen Mastic Sealer". I like it and should have used it to put the roof on as well!.

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I'll take some pictures when I can and post.

Craig
 
I have just fitted both screens recently, the rear one last weekend. The front screen was very easy. Applied mastic to the outer inside corner of the frame (as per the manual), coated the rubber with lubricant and slide it in with the help of my son. Prior to this I applied mastic to the inside of the rubber where the glass seats.

The rear screen was a real piece of work!!. Applying the mastic in the same way as the front was PITA as it kept "drooping and falling off in places. The real difficult part was getting the rubber over the chrome trim evenly and then raising the screen far enough to get the screw jack arrangement engaged correctly. A far amount of upward pressure and flat hand slapping was required for this.

But in the end both look really good and I pleased with he result.

The rubbers were from JA Wadhams and have preformed corners. The front was very good but one side of the rear was not quite formed enough on the inside and doesn't fit against the glass very well. I'll put a small bit of glue on this if it doesn't settle. Mastic sealer was "Bison Windscreen Mastic Sealer". I like it and should have used it to put the roof on as well!.

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I'll take some pictures when I can and post.

Craig
Thanks for info. I installed both my screens dry for a dummy run and I found the front didn't form to curves of glass tops and the rear when seal fitted same also a sod to fit just getting in window recess with seal on took some prizing, the seals are not shaped to glass therefore seals kink at corners, waiting for reply from scotts but interested in yours. have put pics of seals. the channel for screens is1" the seal is 5/8"wide causing concern when I put interior back the trim wont meet seal, have spent 18 month restoreing want best I can get 69 3500 pics of what was and what is at presentPhoto0060 (2).jpgDSCF0005.JPGDSCF0007.JPGDSCF0007.JPGDSCF0005.JPGDSCF0007.JPGPhoto0060 (2).jpgPhoto0177.jpgPhoto0177.jpg. DennisDSCF0005.JPGDSCF0007.JPG
 
Thanks for info. I installed both my screens dry for a dummy run and I found the front didn't form to curves of glass tops and the rear when seal fitted same also a sod to fit just getting in window recess with seal on took some prizing, the seals are not shaped to glass therefore seals kink at corners, waiting for reply from scotts but interested in yours. have put pics of seals. the channel for screens is1" the seal is 5/8"wide causing concern when I put interior back the trim wont meet seal, have spent 18 month restoreing want best I can get 69 3500 pics of what was and what is at presentView attachment 14309View attachment 14307View attachment 14308View attachment 14308View attachment 14307View attachment 14308View attachment 14309View attachment 14310View attachment 14310. DennisView attachment 14307View attachment 14308
 
It is a very long time since I fitted a string-in window and not to a P6 so this information might be totally incorrect.
Firstly you have to get the Window onto a suitable work space clean the glass so its free of dirt and grease,
Next get yourself a spray bottle with washing up liquid and water make a mix and spray around the edge of the window dont worry about the water.
wrap the rubber around the screen banging in the rubber with flat hands to make sure its tight around the window then use a rope to go around the outer part of the rubber { So both ends of the small rope meet in the middle ie the bottom of the window or the top )spray your washing up liquid around the rubber.
Next marry up the window with the installed rubber on the window to the body still dont worry about water can clean and polish window later.
Now on cars that I have done the string should be on the inside of the car But the p6 might be different not sure on this point, with your left hand hold the rope, and get someone to press the screen from the outside by the starting point of your rope, where the start of your rope is, then hold the left side of the rope tight but not to tight then slowly start to pull the right rope, as you pull the rope you should see the rubber over lap the metal of the car body. as you pull the rope you need someone to be looking through the screen and moving there hands applying pressure to the screen.
If you need stop because its going wrong stop and spray more of your washing up liquid around the rubber dont worry it will dry and the rubber will push out the water mix anyway. Like I said I have never fitted a P6 screen but you might be able to pick up something from my post that might help you along the way good luck Dennis Best Wishes
 
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