"How-To"-section anyone?

transexl said:
Who would (have to) decide what is "right" or "wrong", what to add, mark as "not yet proven" or similar?...
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That is one of the main issues with such a library of information.
If I manage to achieve a particularly difficult task with a very lucky but suspect "method" and publish it here and then, Roger the Bodger tries it one sunny Sunday and destroys his engine or wraps his car around the village fountain...........who is legally responsible for the fall-out?
Me for posting it or the site for hosting it?
 
unstable load said:
That is one of the main issues with such a library of information.
If I manage to achieve a particularly difficult task with a very lucky but suspect "method" and publish it here and then, Roger the Bodger tries it one sunny Sunday and destroys his engine or wraps his car around the village fountain...........who is legally responsible for the fall-out?
Me for posting it or the site for hosting it?
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Why would either you or the forum be legally responsible if someone else followed said questionable advice? This inherent need to assign blame to others isn't a basis for establishing liability...
 
So Cal V8 said:
Why would either you or the forum be legally responsible if someone else followed said questionable advice? This inherent need to assign blame to others isn't a basis for establishing liability...
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Welcome to the UK :rolleyes:
 
I just read the title to this thread in the recent posts list and thought to myself......... why would you want to know how to protect anyone from harm and put them in an institution, and why ask on a car forum ?

On the other hand perhaps admin might need this kind of help soon o_O
 
So Cal V8 said:
Why would either you or the forum be legally responsible if someone else followed said questionable advice? This inherent need to assign blame to others isn't a basis for establishing liability...
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It seems to me that there is an increasing need in society in general to reallocate and deflect blame and responsibility away from one's own actions in the event of things going pear shaped, for whatever reason.
All I was trying to do was to voice this observation.
 
unstable load said:
It seems to me that there is an increasing need in society in general to reallocate and deflect blame and responsibility away from one's own actions in the event of things going pear shaped, for whatever reason.
All I was trying to do was to voice this observation.
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Not a dig at you John - merely an observation on my part. ;)

No matter how much people would like to be able to blame others for their mistakes it isn't grounds for liability absent some specific relationship. Getting bad advice from some fella on the internet and then looking to sue him and/or the forum because everyone's "entitled" to compensation just isn't an accurate reflection of the concept of liability. If we buy into that theory then we should probably close the whole forum down as there are plenty of threads on here that contain an element of "I wouldn't try this at home if I were you but, I did and I survived."
 
Take the job of front spring removal for example - if we all followed the workshop manual and used the screw in retainer things then many of us would have probably snuffed it!

In this case we are deliberately not following Rover recommended practice for a specific reason, people have various methods of removal and a lot of us have successfully used these with the caveat that "just because it worked for me it may not be safe/practicable for you" in the back of our minds. It's down to the reader to assess the shown method for safety in line with their skills and availability of equipment.

I think an appropriate disclaimer at the top of any forum subsection and making the "How to" section visible only to registered users is a good way to cover things.
 
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Funny that you should pick up on this, Harvey, because there is one area of expertise AT LEAST that has only one undefeated "judge"! ;)

In all other cases it might just be a question of quantity, work and patience, as we MIGHT add anything and mark it with any disclaimer, as the items should be generally of course. "Guarantee" or "thruth" of all current content is under the same conditions already anyways, is it not?

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SORRY!
When I typed this I could only see Harveys comment, do not ask why!
 
transexl said:
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Funny that you should pick up on this, Harvey, because there is one area of expertise AT LEAST that has only one undefeated "judge"! ;)

In all other cases it might just be a question of quantity, work and patience, as we MIGHT add anything and mark it with any disclaimer, as the items should be generally of course. "Guarantee" or "thruth" of all current content is under the same conditions already anyways, is it not?

edit:
SORRY!
When I typed this I could only see Harveys comment, do not ask why!
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You mean you was a page behind.:D
 
Quagmire said:
Take the job of front spring removal for example - if we all followed the workshop manual and used the screw in retainer things then many of us would have probably snuffed it!

In this case we are deliberately not following Rover recommended practice for a specific reason, people have various methods of removal and a lot of us have successfully used these with the caveat that "just because it worked for me it may not be safe/practicable for you" in the back of our minds. It's down to the reader to assess the shown method for safety in line with their skills and availability of equipment.

I think an appropriate disclaimer at the top of any forum subsection and making the "How to" section visible only to registered users is a good way to cover things.
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I can't find my workshop manual at the moment but, I'm curious, what, if any, disclaimer does it contain?
 
Isn´t the point of a "How-To"-section to expand the manual?
There is new information? (Fans)
Or to make an end to "wrong" information that has been passed on too long? (ATF-level)
 
transexl said:
Isn´t the point of a "How-To"-section to expand the manual?
There is new information? (Fans)
Or to make an end to "wrong" information that has been passed on too long? (ATF-level)
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That was my point when talking about working on the front springs :)
 
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